Week 6 - Broncos @ Jets Discussion Thread

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  1. 74

    74 Well-Known Member

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    Watch the one game we go against our team they keep it a 7 point game and beat the spread.
     
  2. Falco21

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    I had this feeling but we're talking about Denver here lol

    This roster keeping it close with Denver? No way
     
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    Here is how you approach this game on defense, do not blitz! Do not blitz at all. Rex needs to challenge Richardson, Wilkerson, and Harrison to get to Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning is going to pick us apart either way, and despite our CBs sucking, he picked apart Arizona who have much better CBs. Just send three, put eight men back and let Peyton pick us apart rather than give up the huge play. Once upon a time we used this philosophy in New England in a playoff game and it worked. It wont work as well on Sunday because we do not have the secondary we had back then but we do have a much better defensive line.

    I hate to say it to but Rex has not played the defense to its strengths. He is still treating it like we have Revis and Cromartie back there and blitzing at will, instead he should allow the front to get pressure and put many men back. Look at the Giants in 2011, their secondary was almost as bad, but they let their pass rushers cause havoc (yes different defense 3-4/4-3) but ya get the point.

    Bottomline is, I would rather allow Manning to carve us up rather than give up that big play (which might happen anyway but lets limit it).
     
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    The Jets are an embarrassment. Peyton Manning will pick them apart. It will be fun to watch just for the fact of getting to watch a first ballot hall of famer completely slice and dice Rex's defense. They will also drop the game in 4 days to the Patriots. After that, the Jets will be (1-6) and likely able to go (5-4) in their final 9 to finish (6-10). Although, I am probably giving them too much credit.
     
  5. Falco21

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    Put it this way, Peyton Manning just sliced through Arizona's secondary and won by 21. I'm not worried about the Jets keeping it a close game lol
     
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    If the Jets play their best game of the season, and the Broncos play their worst game of the season, then maybe the Broncos will only win by 10.
     
  7. 74

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    How much did u bet?
     
  8. Falco21

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    $200
     
  9. JetDan

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    The Jets will win this game

    Why do I think that? Just because if they win, fans will be greatly confused
     
  10. 101GangGreen101

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    It'll prob happen this way, just enough wins to miss out on the best receiver prospect since Julio Jones.
     
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    Remember the last time Peyton played in Metlife? He's not going to let that happen again.
     
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    Like the outcome of the Super Bowl will have any bearing on the outcome of this game lmfao. Give me a break...
     
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    9 point spread huh? What does Vegas know that we dont?
     
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    I honestly think we may pull off a miracle and end up 3-4 by next week,its the only way Rex can save his job ,I think your gonna see the team we saw the end of last season only better.but I'm trying to stay positive ......I'm not ready to give up
     
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    It can happen, we just need players to stay focused on Sunday and play their assignments, limit the YAC by making good tackles, don't bite on wheel routes, play zone honestly. Not a popular opinion but Peyton doesn't have that arm strength anymore so make him throw into tight zone with some pressure coming through the A gaps.
     
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    Coverage against Peyton is like dancing with the devil though, the looks must keep changing, matchups can get you toasted, we need to be extremely disciplined this week or shit can get ugly faster than we can adjust.
     
  18. strngplyr

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    I actually agree with this, Manning doesn't avoid being sacked because he has the best offensive line in football, he avoids sacks because he gets the ball out before the rush can ever get there. If you don't have pass rush success early then you won't have it at all.

    Drop 8 on every snap, clog up the short field, tackle cleanly.

    Denver doesn't design big plays, they make them happen with (a lot) of illegal blocks before the ball is thrown that aren't called followed by executing downfield blocks. They hit maybe one actual deep shot a game, if that, a lot of "Emmanuel Sanders is a deep threat" stuff is kind of manufactured, I haven't watched all of Denvers games, but most of his 20 yard receptions are talked up as if they're 60 yard receptions, still big plays but not what the media makes it sound like.

    The majority of their big plays are created by illegal blocking and poor defensive tackling.

    You're not going to sack Manning without slowing him down. You can only slow him down by making him see more Green down field than he sees Orange. With how weak his arm is every play seems like it has about 3 hot receivers running routes 3 yards deep incase he thinks hes being pressured. There is no threat of a run game. They are atrocious at run blocking and Ball is sidelined for a few weeks anyways. This is the most one dimensional team in the NFL and they get away with more pick plays and early blocks than anyone, you need to just be more fundamentally sound than they are.

    If you can eventually slow down his reads, it opens up the delayed blitzes, once the OL engages the initial rushers, LB's can time their blitzes to force the throw, Manning isn't going to outrun a free blitzer for too long.

    Then again, all of this is probably irrelevant, NFL DC's have to see that he doesn't get pressured for a reason (or else these types of game plans would be the norm), and while his OL is good, it's not as good as they are made to seem, you just can't rush a QB who doesn't have the ball, and Manning rarely has the ball for too long after it is snapped. Indy (2013) and Seattle are 2 of the rare instances where Manning actually felt heat and it influenced the games. Don't count on seeing that happen often.

    This is one of those funny games where I won't be surprised if the Jets lose 50-10 or if they win 16-13. I really can't decide if it looks like a letdown game for an overhyped (imo) Bronco's team or the blowout that most see.

    Hopefully that was a pretty non-biased opinion as I root for neither team and dislike both. I can't say I'll be cheering for the Jets' but I'll definitely be cheering against the Broncos' on Sunday.
     
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  19. strngplyr

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    Do the Jets have the personnel to make him throw into a tight zone? It's more complicated than just having a player stand in a spot, which, no offense, sometimes seems like all some of the back 7 players are capable of doing.
     
  20. soxxx

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    And if I am going to blitz, I will blitz from the outside. Send a CB in from the far side to attack Manning.

    The Broncos won both home games to the Colts and Chiefs by a TD. They lost in Seattle, and then they had a good home performance last Sunday. So 3 out of their 4 games were competitive, the Jets on the other hand, 4 out of their 5 games were competitive. Its a home game for the Jets, thats why we are only like what? 8 point underdogs?

    If Geno Smith can have a game along the lines of: 250 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INT, 0 Fumbles, the Jets will have a chance. Everyone going to have to step up.
     

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