I'm sure that Denver could put 60+ up on us next weekend, but they will probably pull Manning at halftime and run the ball 30 more times while our offense monkeyfucks the football to shame us a bit more. My guess is 38-9.
You do understand that's exactly why we're in this position? lol Who the fuck is the QB gonna throw to? You don't pass up on an Elite level WR especially when we're starting UDFA and hoping people clear waiver wires.
Rex has had 8 3 game losing streaks, and now, one four game losing streak in six seasons as Jets head coach. He is 15-25 in hist last 40 games. The Rex brigade on this message board can talk about talent and General Managers until the Cows come home, but at the end of the day, the coach's record speaks for itself.
Its taking everybody to screw this mess up. Its all of the above from top to bottom. Its also not going to get easier. Bring on the Broncos and Pats.
I totally agree, but the Rex lovers on this message board like to pretend that he is this great coach who has been hampered by a horrifically bad talent base. I just don't buy it. The bottom line is that the guy has been here 6 years and the team looks far more lost now than it did when Rex got here. We have been on a downward spiral for over 3 years now. The coach has got to take his share of the responsibility for that. And to be fair, he should probably take a lot of it.
I think its safe to say that Mangini left Rex a better team overall than Rex will leave his replacement.
Its pretty sad how many people dont realize that QBs make jobs and QBs break jobs. There are always coaches that are just god awful and have no chance but there are so many coaches, Rex included that could be a hall of fame coach if they had a great QB. Keep finding players at other positions, yet they wont win until they have a QB. They should be a groundbreaking organization and just pick QBs every year until they find an all time great. Exhibit A Bill Belichick in Cleveland. He was a ok but he didnt have the QB to win. He finds Brady and now he is an all time great. What about Dungy. He was ok in Tampa Bay but "improved" so much when he got Peyton Manning. Look at Chuck Pagano, he is not a good coach but he had Andrew Luck.
Offensive Line is the first thing that needs attention. Brick and Mangold are getting up there in age, and the rest of the line is hot garbage. The line affects every single snap, run and pass. A good line can make a good player great, and a not so good player acceptable. Without a strong oline the likelihood of successfully developing a good young quarterback is low. In the case of the Jets, I'd say receivers are a bigger need than QB. The fact that a guy who is an average 2 at best is the difference between the Jets having a passing game vs being miserably inept shows just how bad the Jets receiving group is. This is supported by the same shit happening with Kerley getting hurt last year (and he's only an average 3) and the fact that Vick couldn't do anything more than Geno when given the chance. No one blocking, no one getting open or catching, what's a QB supposed to do? Finally, I don't give up on Geno yet, simply for the fact that there is no one else right now (Vick will not be back). That said, Im still bringing in a veteran and a rookie next season to compete. If you don't fix the line and receiver problems, it won't mean a damn thing what they do at QB.
Well, if the league had stepped in and stopped Indy from dumping (Suck for Luck), they wouldn't have drafted Luck but that didn't happen. Let the Jets try something like that and we'll get assraped out of 5 years worth of #1 DP's.
There are far too many that do not understand this. It is a QB league and everything else is secondary. Building the rest of the team because said QB doesn't have anyone to throw to or hand off to or be blocked for in the hopes that in the future a QB falls into our laps is doing it backwards. _
Lol Indy has done that themselves by trading for Trent and drafting a defensive end who has been nothing better than ok so far. No luck for the Jets. Every year they seem to bottom out in the top 10 the QBs available never amount to anything. Peyton Manning not entering the draft, 2004 draft had Pennington and missed the good QBs by finishing just outside of Roethlisberger pick, 2006 draft had nobody good, 2007 draft had nobody good, 2013 draft with shit, 2009 draft had shit.
Another example, the Bengals should be the best team in football. They have such good talent on the team all around but they have a shit QB and a shit coach. We should hire away their GM and scouting department.
I feel bad for Rex - he has had a bottom 5 QB his entire time with the Jets - would love to see what he could do when not being hamstrung - in some ways I hope he gets fired so I can see where he lands and maybe use that as a way to get a second team to follow - hopefully one that enjoys a bit of success now and then.
I'm just so tired of the attitude that we build ALL the structure around the player THEN we look for the most important piece to the puzzle. You have to find that piece first then develop and build around--even if it means sitting the player for a year or 2. I hate to keep bringing up the same example but he was sitting there for us last year and we were blocked from taking him because we already had Geno and...you know... he showed INCREDIBLE improvement over his last 4 games. _
why does he? not trolling just asking - isn't it the job of the GM to go out and get the players and for the coach to gameplan? the fact we have terrible, terrible talent seems more on the FO than the coach IMO - we have never once had anything approaching a good QB or a decent offense - who takes the blame for that?
It's not that simple. It's not about getting a QB; the Jets got two of them. It's about getting the right QB, and that is a matter of timing, opportunity, and luck. We could go 1-15, draft Mariotta, and suck for the next 5 years because he can't be clutch to save his mother. You don't just simply get the right QB. The stars need to align and lady luck has not been on the Jets side in that regard for a very long time.
