I agree with a most of this. One thing that the 2010 team had was big play potential at the WR position. When Edwards and Holmes were healthy, they could make big, game-changing plays that jived perfectly with our play-action game. I really think a deep threat like Edwards would go a long way towards solidifying this offense. One of the biggest weaknesses I think our offense has right now is either an inability to, or worse, lack of interest in, stretching the field. Part of our problem right now is that Marty's offense requires 10-15 perfectly executed plays per drive, and our quarterback is too mistake prone for that to consistently be successful. I think we need a way to make more big plays. Interestingly, our most explosive offensive players are actually in the backfield. I'd like to see even more carries for Ivory, Johnson, and Powell (who should be getting 5 carries a game, minimum). The problem is that MM has never and will never be committed enough to running the ball for those numbers to pan out.
Have you watched a game all year? Your telling me that Walls and Allen ( a college linebacker) are better than Cromartie and Revis. I've officially heard it all. And sure we have a great RB core but Jones, LT, Shonn Greene, Leon Washington, ect were no bums. I'm just going to ignore you thinking Nassib is better than Geno that's just ignorance.
They are ranked 4th in the league, and they would be a lot better if they weren't on the field so damn much. Do you know what its like to a 300lb+ pound guy who has to go right back out on the field after your offense goes 5 drives of 3 and out in the first half? The offensive problems spill over to the defense.
Wrong, Jets rank #17 in points allowed per game this season. They ranked #19 in points allowed per game last year. 2009 the Jets were ranked #1 in points allowed and in 2010 the Jets were ranked #3 in points allowed per game. NOT EVEN CLOSE to the same defense.
How is it not the same team? We #3 defense in the league RIGHT NOW #1 rushing defense instead of passing defense but still #10 in passing defense.. same shit different toilet. Even the QB play...Geno is giving us the same turnovers Sanchez gave us.. just a few more rushing TD's from him.
Both aren't that good. Geno Smith is not a franchise QB. He may be a serviceable QB, but he will never bring the Jets to the Super Bowl unless he manages to find himself on a stacked team.
1) Through 4 games, the Jets are averaging 30:33 in TOP per game. This is 15nth in the league . . . Average (Not quite "so damn much") 2) Rex and all of his fanboys obsess over defensive rankings (primarily yards/game allowed), but unfortunately, they mask a ton of problems. First and foremost, this team forces no turnovers. We lose the turnover battle every game partly because we have a mistake prone quarterback and partly because our defense is among the worst in the league at forcing turnovers. We have recovered two fumbles and made ZERO interceptions through 25% of the NFL Season. That is pathetic. We are 31st in the NFL in takeaways. The only defense behind us is the New Orleans Saints (who have one recovered fumble and zero picks). We are (-5) for the season in Turnover differential . . . . This is tied for WORST in the entire NFL. You still think we are the best defense in football? 3) Through 4 games, opposing NFL quarterbacks have a rating of 104.1 against our "number 1" defense. That is 27nth in the NFL. Opposing quarterbacks have thrown 9TDs and 0 INTs against us. Once more, your initial claim that we have the best defense in the NFL is completely baseless. .
If our defense holds up.. by the time we get to the weaker QB's on our schedule this defense will be better than 09 & 10 IMO. we have the #10 pass defense right now while being very young and banged up.. By the time these guys get more experience together and healthier we'll be whooping on randy orton & matt moore.
With regards to our wonderful defense, I'll post what I just posted since it addresses your points so well: 1) Rex and all of his fanboys obsess over defensive rankings (primarily yards/game allowed), but unfortunately, they mask a ton of problems. First and foremost, this team forces no turnovers. We lose the turnover battle every game partly because we have a mistake prone quarterback and partly because our defense is among the worst in the league at forcing turnovers. We have recovered two fumbles and made ZERO interceptions through 25% of the NFL Season. That is pathetic. We are 31st in the NFL in takeaways. The only defense behind us is the New Orleans Saints (who have one recovered fumble and zero picks). We are (-5) for the season in Turnover differential . . . . This is tied for WORST in the entire NFL. You still think we are the best defense in football? 2) Through 4 games, opposing NFL quarterbacks have a rating of 104.1 against our "number 1" defense. That is 27nth in the NFL. Opposing quarterbacks have thrown 9TDs and 0 INTs against us.
For the record, I'm not saying we have a bad defense. Not even close. We are irrefutably above average. But, as I (in my previous two posts) and many others before me have pointed out, you can't just look at yards allowed per game as the only significant barometer of an NFL defense. We don't force turnovers (Really, I would argue that we have been rather weak at forcing turnovers over most of Rex's tenure), we give up big plays in the secondary, and we have a lot of trouble getting big stops at the end of halves and games. We aren't great, by any stretch of the imagination. Stop pretending that we are.
I hear you loud and clear bro.. i know we aren't getting turnovers... but can you find a stat on how many times we make teams punt compared to other defenses? I know 3 & outs aren't as good as turnovers especially when you need good field position, but the amount of chances this defense gives the offense is pretty fucking good. We could have easily been torched in all of these games if it weren't for them getting offenses off the field so much. Not to mention were talking about NFC North offenses at that, pretty much as good as it gets. Also i know their rating looks good only because of the TD to INT ratio but they aren't exactly carving us up they just get the big plays on us which i feel will be reduced once everyone is healthy.
I thought Geno Smith was more resilient and wasn't the type to unravel under media and fan pressure unlike Sanchez. He still may be, but sunday's meltdown in front of the fans has me questioning that
Yeah, I mean we have a good defense. Just not a great one. We are 14nth (with opposing offenses converting 41.1% of third downs against us) at 3rd down conversions allowed. We lead the league in Sacks (Which is always an enormously overrated stat - for example, currently Miami, Jacksonville and Washington are all in the top 5 in sacks). We are 4th in rushing yards allowed per attempt and 3rd in rushing yards allowed per game. Those are our most pronounced strengths.
sooo a few picks would make us a great defense! we dropped alotta picks it's not like we were nowhere near stopping a single pass thrown.. We could get 3 picks in a game and jump up the charts since were talking rankings
So the "difference" you wanted to point out by making this thread, and the reason we should get rid of Geno is that he hasn't showed Sanchez's occasional "promise"? Otherwise, they are the same "crap"? Not much to respond to there.
No, we are far from being a great defense. But, a few picks would make the statement that we are a "great" defense sound just a tad bit less moronic
