This is about where i am at. Love rex but starting to wonder if we seen his best. the way this team has lost is a direct reflection on the coaching. We were good enough to be 3-0 if this trend keeps up i won't have any problem with the axe falling
you cant keep a guy who havent make the playoffs for 4 years , unless you satisfied with last seasons.
I mean . . . you CAN (look at the Bengals), but it's usually very hard to justify. The dilemma is always whether to start over or not. It's been said countless times, but just to reiterate: The teams that maintain continuity at head coach win consistently. The question is, can Rex be the guy to take us to where we want to go? If you think he realistically can, you keep him no matter how many seasons it's been since we were a playoff team. The problem is, I, along with many others, are starting to doubt whether he can be that guy. His teams have fielded a good but slightly front-running defense and a mistake-prone, sometimes woefully inept offense for years now. For me, I need to see this team start to make less game-changing mistakes. Turnovers, dropped passes, dropped interceptions, etc. I can't help but feel that Rex's insistence on always defending his players contributes to the constant mistakes. I can't help but feel that players aren't being truly held accountable for their mistakes. Maybe he needs to develop a harsher side to him. I don't know. We would have won this game if not for that huge mistake. We would have won that game if not for this huge mistake. We can't be saying this stuff indefinitely. At some point, the head coach has to take the fall for this stuff.
the bengals are where they are because they draft good as anybody in the league , man that team could lose 3 top starters and still make the playoffs the depth and talent in that team its ridiculous. Lewis coudnt rly do any worse then he did in this years there lol.
Oh, I agree. (I probably would have let Lewis go years ago ). I was just saying that it is possible for an owner to get away with keeping a coach through multiple losing seasons (Although, it would be much harder in New York, of course)
Rex is trending down, I have to admit at this juncture. I just wish he addresses the team as a whole - every-time I look he's next to the defense. He never talks to the offense, or anything. I will continue to support him until the end of the season, but man if David Shaw from Stanford decides to leave - Idzik better look to get this guy here. At least he cares about both sides of the ball EQUALLY. Rex just isn't where I thought he would be. I thought he would look to learn more about the offense, become more well-rounded but guess it may have been fools gold, IDK at this juncture.
He has always been too proud of his defensive prowess. He still thinks of himself as a defensive coach, first and foremost. I'm one of those people who watches every Jets press conference. I have watched every Jets press conference since Mangini took over in 2006 (For whatever reason, I never cared for press conferences before that). I can't tell you how many times Rex has used the word "us" to refer to either the current Jets defense (not the whole team) OR the Ravens defense he served as the DC for in Baltimore. In fact, there have been many times where he has referred to the Ravens defense and the Jets defense interchangeably, while serving as the Jets head coach. I have always felt that was a really bad sign. It just signals to me that he attaches his self worth as a coach to what his defenses do, no matter what the rest of his team does, or even which team he is actually coaching for. I just think it's a very dangerous outlook for a head coach to have. I worry that someone who is that obsessed with the defense isn't necessarily capable of making meaningful decisions on the offensive side of the ball (something every head coach, no matter how defense-oriented, has to be able to do).
Barcs Te basic thing I expect from a Head Coach is to find a way to score more points from 7 trips to inside 25 yard line. Do you believe if it was a coach like Sean Payton or another offensively capable head coach on our sideline we would still score 19 points from 7 trips? When same inefficiency happens year in and year out this wears down on you. I absolutely lost my trust to Rex after the 3 games this year. It is not about the QB play or injured WR's or this or that. Last 4 years, we are shitting the bed on the offensive side of the ball and it is always somebody else's fault but Rex. This falls on Rex. I expect more from Rex. That's what I am trying to say.
You would think, after 3 or 4 yrs of bad offense Rex would look to increase his knowledge on offense, know more about what players are best in what situations. If I am Rex, I would have demanded Ivory to be out there for at least 20 carries. We will have to see how things go as the season progresses, but if a coach that knows both sides of the field is available, we should look to hire that coach.
Do you want Rex calling both defensive plays AND offensive plays? Hell he should be handling special teams as well since coordinators don't do anything around the league. How about we start expecting more from our players instead of blaming coaches/play calls/refs. How many times this year has the defense dropped int's already, no KO or punt returns, no 50+ yard touchdowns. Geno missing or making inexcusable throws. Its time for players to start making fucking plays, the coaches are doing an amazing job putting guys in position these last 3 weeks, it falls solely on these players and I'm sick of all the excuses for all of them while we sit back and blame coaches/refs. Missed sacks, picks, throws, fumbles, when do players start taking some heat for this?
It is the job of head coach to prepare players physically or mentally. No I didn't say Rex should call offensive plays or defensive plays. Look at Coughlin. He is not calling the offensive plays and he isn't calling defensive plays either. But he is the head coach. He makes sure his players perform properly. Okay now you will start telling me Giants are shit and Coughlin is crap but please understand what I am trying to say. If the players aren't executing the last 4 years who is this on?
Amen this. Its not just one players fault either. Its the whole damn team Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
The whole point is THEY ARE PREPARED, guys are just not finishing, blowing assignments, you want Rex to catch for the DB's too? Maybe Marty should drop back and overthrow a Wide open Decker? Or a Wide open Salas? Or better yet a red zone interception on a double covered Nelson? I get that you're frustrated I think everyone is but the excuses end for everyone INCLUDING the players.
This is the exact kind of decision I mean. No one is asking him to call plays, but if he sees something he doesn't like, he has to have the insight and diligence to get it fixed.
Our offensive problems, at least this year, are about personnel not Rex's lack of knowledge in that area.
It's all about adapting and making adjustments, putting players in the right place to succeed. That's a coaching problem.
yeah terrible example. The Giants are turning the ball over more than we even are, and their special teams mishaps might just be worst in the league. Could you imagine the outrage here if we had a borderline HOF QB, yet still led the league in INT's? and on top of that, having botched field goals and blocked punts? sounds like great discipline. and your attempt to cite Sean Payton.......he was demoted from play calling by the Giants, and then let go. Was that due to having a shite QB in '02, or was Payton just a shit play caller? i think by this point we know our answer. unfortunately for coaches, they get blamed for bad QB play all the time, coz its easier than excepting the truth of the matter.
You dodged the question. I want to know exactly how Rex would influence that outcome. MM has our offense ranked higher right now than it has been in years. It is productive and MM seems to have that aspect under control. The problem has been with Geno making poor decisions in the red zone and shitty usage of Michael Vick. If that were the case, we'd probably have a different DC, and the defense would give up more points. It works both ways. Did Rex throw those game changing interceptions? Was he at fault for the pick 6 right off the bat? Was he at fault for the crappy timeout against the Packers that blew the game? Was he at fault for the poor officiating that negated a fumble 6 last week? You are just looking for excuses to nitpick a guy who you clearly already don't like, when there are WAY bigger factors involved in the outcomes of these games. Really? It had nothing to do with Sanchez and Geno turning the ball over? Are you seriously trying to claim this? It has been primarily QB mistakes that have prevented us from being a 11 win + team almost every year under Rex. The one year we were efficient with TOs (2010) was our best year under Rex. And to insinuate that Rex makes no attempt whatsoever to improve his offensive knowledge seems a bit silly to me.
