Ray Rice Two Game Suspension

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  1. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    No I said while I don't condone knocking her out I understand him hitting her. This was based on old evidence of the situation. It was implied that she was acting crazy. Ray said he was defending himself and even she said she was wrong. Once the video was released I changed my stance.

    Is that wrong or should I stand firm in my original thoughts despite new evidence?
     
  2. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    You are fishing for arguments. And you're not making sense. Defending myself and not condoning violence aren't mutually exclusive.
     
  3. The Waterboy

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    You can stand firm or change your thoughts on Rice, doesn't matter. It seems you still feel punching a woman with all you have is allowable and that is what I have a problem with.
     
  4. The Waterboy

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    It has already been discussed that a woman spitting on you poses no real threat, the only threat it poses is to your ego. Laying a woman out because of a bruised ego is not defending yourself, it is violence, an act which you are saying you do not condone.
     
  5. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    When did I say the bold or anything similar to it?

    When did I advocate knocking women out?
     
  6. The Waterboy

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    Seriously, I just quoted 5 of your posts were you stated, with out a doubt that you would "fuck up, kick their ass, she should be man enough to take a hit, spit on me then she's getting hit, anybody spits on me they WILL get hit, her consequence was getting knocked out".
    You just replied to the post where I quoted them less than 25 minutes ago, are you losing your mind? Those were also posts that do not reflect the thoughts of a man that does not condone violence.
     
  7. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Janay Rice has some serious BPS it seems. The below from her Instagrm

     
  8. The 1985er

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    Once again find the post where I condone knocking women out? Or are you just interpreting them how you want? I thought I was clear. Me saying that does not mean I condone violence. So going forward whatever you say just remember this. It doesn't mean I condone violence.
     
  9. Gunther

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    That is a discussion that makes absolutely no sense considering people have been arrested and prosecuted for spitting on other people. Some of these people have viruses. Spitting is a form of disrespect. If you are saying that a man should take being spit upon then you are willing to accept it's okay to think little of your own value. We have created mentally and emotionally stunted women by constantly repeating at nauseam that a man should never put his hands on a woman or if you are married that remember no matter what she is always right. A woman who can't fight but decides to put her hands on someone else is mentally, and emotionally stunted. A woman that can't accept that she is wrong is emotionally and mentally retarded. Women get the house, half your pay, the kids, and my body is supposed to be her punching bag as well? Get the fuck out here.
     
  10. joeuser

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    Spitting is an assault, the degree of which is determined by the biohazard(s) involved.
     
  11. BobbyGM8000

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    Wow..
     
  12. JetBlue

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    I disagree. She knows better than anyone what happened. When you see the video you don't see Julia Roberts in sleeping with the enemy being dominated and abused by her husband to control her. You see a woman completely comfortable striking her man in the face. She is a battered spouse as much as she is an abusive spouse, he simply hits harder.

    That's the problem with the entire narrative of the hysteria around this story -- people are creating a caricature of her so they can brand themselves by their outrage. God forbid we discuss the reality of what is on the video -- two people in a fucked up abusive relationship that both hit one another. When she admits that people want to argue she is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome or something because it disputes the narrative they want to push and prevents them from celebrating themselves as being against violence against women.
     
  13. BobbyGM8000

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    So that gives him the right to knock her out? Stop it man
     
  14. JetBlue

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    shut the fuck up, you moron. where did anything I see even intimate it gives him the right? nothing I said condones or justifies what he did, so if you have a brain, reach your hand up your ass, get it out of your intestines and put it back in your head so you can use it rather than continuing to repeat bullshit strawman's to counter what I say.

    because you clearly have severe comprehension disabilities, the post you quoted was specifically about whether Janay Rice is simply admitting her own fault and sypethizing with her husband because she is a victim of abuse or because she knows the truth of her participation in a abusive relationship that they both contribute to.
     
  15. BobbyGM8000

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    You shut up. All you keep saying is that she hit him too. Who the hell cares??? That doesn't make it right that he punched her lights out does it? Two people this two people that, its all you keep saying. Only one person was knocked out that night dude. Wake up
     
  16. JetBlue

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    if you aren't bright enough to be able to discuss a complex situation, stay the fuck out of what I discuss. nowhere in anything I have posted states it is right, that's just another strawman on your part because you aren't bright enough to counter what I am actually stating.

    I am discussing the totality of the event and the dishonest narrative of it, not simply the fact that he hit her.

    she hit him, he hit her. that's the truth of the situation. answer this, why is it okay and right for her to hit him? why are you not outraged by the fact that she hit him?
     
  17. BobbyGM8000

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    You're a sick person.

    Because she is a woman and he is a man. A man doesn't hit a woman unless he is a pussy or a piece of shit, or is in danger for his life. and Ray Rice is both a pussy and piece of shit. If you can't see that it is wrong that a guy hitting a woman is wrong even if she hits him first, thats not my fault.
     
  18. JetBlue

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    no, I am not a sick person because I have never stated it wasn't wrong for him to hit her. you simply continue your string of strawman retorts because you're clearly an imbecile.

    just to be clear, you answered my question that you aren't outraged by her hitting him because she is a woman. is it fair to interpret that as saying you believe it is okay for a woman to hit a man?
     
  19. IDFjet

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    For my 1st fuckin' post, let me say no one should be acting all holier than thou--its her life and his--leave them the fuck be and don't go making accusations against people just cuz you're pissed off.

    And Bobby, I know women who can beat the shit out of you and I wish they would just to shut you the fuck up. :p
     
  20. NYJalltheway

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    So this person just joins yesterday, has over 50 posts, and they all look like they're from this thread. Lol, what a loser.
     

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