The conversation was about me saying that there are cases where women provoke men and they sometimes deserve to get hit. The initial report was that she was hitting him ala Solange. So based on this I felt that Rice shouldn't have his feet to the fire. Now that we've seen the video then my thoughts changed. I did say that he was wrong for knocking her out. This point was ignored or glossed over. I also said that I never justify men beating women. But that was ignored/glossed over as well. All because I said there are situations where women provoke men. I never reserved any judgement on anything. I made my initial thoughts based on what was said to have happened.
No no no--you never believed he made a mistake. You said he was warranted in hitting her. Because she spit on him. Not a mistake--willful and intentional and warranted by virtue of your code. You can't change your narrative now. I don't believe in hitting women, not for dissing you or smacking you or abusing you verbally or mentally and CERTAINLY not for her spitting on you which YOU were the champion of. Only in two remote circumstances should physical violence be EVER be taken against a woman--if she is attacking you with a deadly instrument or she is attacking your loved ones with a deadly instrument. I'm not sure you were totally being serious on that one, but if you were lol. _
The backtracking is LOLworthy. Growing up in Irvington NJ meant that spitting on someone could get you KILLED and rightfully so because it is the epitome of disrespect. He said that broad deserved it. _
Bullshit. You said she spit on him and therefore she deserved everything she got and more importantly should have EXPECTED it. _
Yes I said sometimes things happen in the heat of the moment when both parties aren't thinking straight. Hence mistake. And no coming up with bogus reasons like she drowned my kids and hung the other one outside isn't valid. If you don't believe in hitting women then you just don't do it. If you saw that scene you probably call police. So you really don't have a moral ground to stand on. I can't believe we're having this discussion again.
Smh. EDIT: I'm not backtracking on anything. You know what you're doing. You know I know you know what you're doing.
You don't have time to call the police if you are being attacked by a woman with a deadly instrument or she is imminently about to kill a loved one, if you don't agree with that then you're just being intentionally ignorant to skirt and backtrack on the stance you took. Those are the ONLY reasons to use violent force against a woman. YOU advocated punching a woman because she spit on him. You said it multiple times. Because that's how folks from Irvington NJ are raised. Stop deflecting or trying to change the narrative. You don't have to have the discussion anymore, but if you keep trotting your bullshit to hide your former statements, we'll continue to discuss it. _
If you don't hit women you can't use qualifiers. That's pretty weak. You can't dictate to me what I meant or what I said just to fit your agenda. No amount of discussion is going to change this. You continuing this discussion is you trying to flex to prove a point. I can't dictate to you the terms of how and when to hit women. Nor would I try. But if you're going to twist stuff around while being a jackass then we can play that game. I've addressed what I meant earlier in this thread. No need to go over it again.
Your continued insistence that you can't use qualifiers is asinine. I twist nothing. I have no agenda when simply stating what YOU said. You said she got what she deserved , no she ASKED for it because she spit on him. If Rice was from Irvington NJ she'd be dead right now. And I'm not being a jackass-this time. You said it repeatedly. Own your own stupid shit. Getting on a plane, I'll read your weak ass backtracking bullshit when I land. _
You're either doing this on purpose or you're stupid. I'm leaning towards doing this on purpose. But then again you never know.
When she divorces him in two months and takes half his remaining NFL money, she will look like a genius.
Well that's a personal insult and makes me extremely sad. Own your shit. You said you come from the mean streets of Irvington NJ and beating women is cool, kind of expected by the men. Shows how strong they are. I've lived in LI, Syracuse, Brooklyn, Teaneck and now blissfull Northern Bergen County. Married and raised 2 boys and 2 girls. Not in one if those locales was it accepted that knocking the shit out of women was appropriate. You condone hitting women. Maybe one of us should reconsider who's the insecure faggot. Love how you're now going the faggot route. You beat the shit out of them too? Sounds insecure or maybe telling of your closet tendencies. IRVINGTON!! _
It's okay own your insecurity. If I'm what you say I am then you're an insecure faggot. Have a nice "flight" -
Flights delayed am on the Tarmac. I have no insecurity and I find when folks first bring up the concept of "insecure faggot" they've got a LOT to hide. Interesting again you're going the "faggot" route. Speaks volumes. How many offspring have you sired? _
Hey, I wonder if the ravens would trade a corner for a RB? We could sell high on Ivory. Lets be realistic the corners played well this week but can we expect that with the competition coming up? IMO We still need to improve our coverage skills. Don't they still run a similar system?
End of the day if you defended Ray Rice and supported him knocking the shit out of her, as 1985 did, that's one misguided dude. I don't care if you were raised on the mean streets of Irvington NJ, you defended him then and now you're backtracking. Because of some man/diss code. Own it or you are a fraud. _
