Adams had a rough 2013-2014 campaign as did most of the Raiders' secondary but the season prior he showed some promise. Here's a PFF article on him going into the 2013 season. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/06/05/secret-superstar-phillip-adams/
Just making a joke here about what Idzik could be doing. No offense. All my other posts have referred more to his GM coups mor so than his failures. He knows a lot about talent just is way to cautious about paying for it. Also, I question his drafting this year.
No offense was taken. I don't get offended when another fan/poster criticizes or belittles something about the Jets. I just respond when I think the post isn't dealing with reality and/or I strongly disagree. I didn't realize you were joking, however. Sorry if I misunderstood your intent. I've seen several other posts recently that were very similar to yours and they were serious, so I thought it was just another. After I responded I did see your other post where you give Idzik a B+ so far and made a number of positive comments about him. We are pretty much in agreement there. He's made some mistakes, but we ALL do. He is a first-time GM, so is entitled, and even some of the best, most experienced GMs have made some of the same mistakes, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt unless or until he proves to not deserve it. I'm not going to cynically automatically think that he's crap like some other posters here simply because I don't like Woody or the Jets have had so many other bad GMs. We do differ on his being "too cautious" in paying for talent. When you're responsible for spending someone else's money, you have to be cautious, particularly when you think the player isn't an ideal fit in the team's systems to begin with or the player has been on record as wavering in his love for and commitment to playing football. One bad move can seriously hurt your team for years. Once you sign a player to a big money deal, he's uncuttable for all intents and purposes, and it has a huge impact upon the salary cap. Have you forgotten how the Jets hands were tied with regards to Pace, Thomas, Sanchez, Scott and others? Of course, with them, their FA contracts weren't so much the problem as Tanny's re-negotiating or extending their contracts to get more cap space. Still, the point remains. Would it have been worth it to you to have Idzik signed one of the FA CBs this year for $9-12 million per (especially when he isn't that good and not an ideal fit for Rex's system), and then have it destroy the team salary system Idzik is trying to put into place, which in turn would have caused current Jets players to demand too much money when their contract were due to be extended? Personally, I think he played it just right. He tried to sign several of them, but they all wanted much more than they were worth and/or that a CB is worth. I would rather the team struggle some this season because of the CB issue, but Idzik be able to get his team salary structure/scale in place, be able to re-sign players like Mo Wilk and Kerley, and have money to add FAs next year that DO fit our systems and who aren't looking to break the bank. I think that you and many Jets fans have been too influenced by Rex, how he views his D system and how he way overvalues CBs. At any rate, thanks for the clarification.
Thanks for the nice reply. BTW I think your posts are classy and to the point. My sarcasm in posts relates to my overall frustration with the Jets organization as a whole and not seeing a SB win since 1969, before many members of TGG were even conceived. As I recall, your frustration boiled over in a post or two last Spring where you thought Idzik should be fired for some decision he made (sorry, correct me if I am wrong). If I was named to manage millions of Johnson's money, of course I would be careful. But like the folks who work on Wall Street and manage pension funds and securities you are paid on the expectation of growing the money or even doubling it. In football, you sign the best players for as little $ as possible, get terrific mileage out of them, get you to the playoffs and win a SB. This will increase the value of your team, get more season ticket holders etc. Signing the wrong ones or locking into a long term contract, being stuck with a bust is deadly. You gave some excellent examples and I wholeheartedly agree. So where will the money go? And to whom? You sign a free agent for 9 mil a year and "destroy the team salary system Idzik is trying to put into place" Not exactly understanding what a your "salary system" refers to. Perhaps you mean to say we need to get every player "on the cheap"? Or just sign as many players as possible to one year deals? How can you make that happen?? I think of a great money deal Idzik made for example was Chris Johnson who came to us relatively inexpensively. If players demand more money when their contracts are due their Agents are just doing their job. Let the negotiating begin. The fact that a FA is "overpaid" and thus triggers other players to demand more is also based on what other team GMs pay for similar positions. That's the free market system. I understand Idzik saves money to pay for players that deserve it, Kerley etc but Idzik can really only control the length of a players contract as the NFL market, past performance dictates a guys real worth. Yes, I agree that many CB like DRC demanded too much $ and Idzik passed. Cousin Cromartie could have stayed with the Jets for much less. I am glad we agree on many points here but personally I am not so willing to see the poor Jets struggle, which in turn means we the fans struggle and wait for Idzik to control salaries. CB may be a non issue if the Jets offense controls the ball and game clock, effectively keeping you opponent off the field and resting your D. The best is on the way! Agree with you that only FAs that fit our system should be signed, perhaps we should wait till next year . I think Idzik the Accountant will do a good job of budgeting funds and not overpaying anyone lol. If you check my older posts I prefer to worry about pushing the offense than supporting Rex and his defense. Thus, I was with you in opinion how the Jets should have tried to get some quality WRs in draft like Lee and Cooks. I am hardly Mr. Know It All and welcome your comments.
Thanks for the kind words. I understand your frustrations. I've had more than my share of them with this team over the last 51 years. LOL I can hardly remember yesterday, much less last spring, but I don't believe it was Idzik I wanted fired, but it may have been. If so, it was only a momentary frustration. I do have my doubts about him, and don't agree with everything he's done, but in so many ways he's night and day better over any GM we've had since Weeb, so I'm willing to cut him some slack. I think it's probably more likely that I wanted Rex fired or Woody to sell the team. I have little respect for either. By a team "salary system or structure" I refer to comments I've seen GMs make before that they had a dollar amount in mind for each position on the team. The most important positions and better players of course get the bigger contracts. Based on his actions, I don't believe that Tanny had any such structure. While he had handled the cap, he had no knowledge, expertise in how to put together a football team and had no eye for talent. I believe that he winged it and made it up as he went a long. Based on his comments and actions, I believe that Idzik does have a structure in place. I think he is unwilling to pay CBs over a certain amount, and that amount varies with the quality of the CB and whether he would be the #1 or #2 CB, but I think there is a top value he'd pay in any instance. I think he has enough knowledge and experience with personnel and administration to know that one doesn't build a team around a #1 CB and he's not willing to shell out $10-$12 million per year or more to a #1 CB, and probably no more than $4-$6 million to his #2 CB. I can't prove that he has such a salary structure or what the amounts are. They are educated guesses and may be too high or too low. Perhaps someone else can speak to this issue and have a better idea of what those dollar amounts might be. I didn't mean sign as many players as possible or get every one on the "cheap." What I mean by players demanding more money is that when they see that another player gets signed to a big contract and they think that they are much better at their position than the player signing the big contract, then they ask for more than they perhaps otherwise would have. I'm sure JJ Watts contract will have some bearing on Mo Wilk's new contract, but Mo Wilks has said he wants to remain a Jet and isn't looking to break the bank. Whereas a player like Revis wants to be the top paid at his position, Mo Wilks doesn't seem to be that way, but if Idzik had signed Vontae Davis to a huge contract, Mo Wilks may have changed his mind and asked for and additional $4+ million per year (I'm just pulling that figure out of the air...it could be more or less). I'd prefer the team not struggle, but the reality is that not every hole or problem could be resolved in this off season. Some position was going to have to be addressed in a less satisfactory manner. There's no guarantee that even if Idzik had signed a big name CB to a big contract this off season, that the Jets' D would have been appreciably better or the team win more games. If the pass defense struggles this year and the team loses a few more games than it otherwise might have, BUT as a result of the other moves Idzik made, I'll be satisfied. I've been waiting for another SB appearance since 1969. What's perhaps another loss or two in a season where we had no realistic expectation of being a contender, if we are making steady progress towards the goal of winning a SB? As I've said in other posts, there's no one way to build a team, but I think everyone agrees that the Jets' offense needed more work/attention than the D, and on the D, the pass rush has needed more attention for years. I believe improving both of those areas will have a much greater impact on the team's play and success than the CB position.
