As a side note I'm very glad we don't know what happened. New regime seems to be air tight and leak free. Press totally in the dark. Hope it continues.
Well that's certainly one way to look at it. But the whole situation is very odd and the punishment seems to hurt the team as much as the player. Why would you want to suspend a veteran but new player who's short on game practice (toasted one game, injured the next, then does a vanishing trick and now suspended for the last one)? Especially when it is a position you're struggling in already. You're either very confident that preseason game 1 was a blip or you're going to cut him anyway. The only reason I can think of for cutting him later rather than now is that you are in negotiation with someone else, but think that by making your position seem less desperate you'll be able to cut a better deal. I guess we're just going to have to wait and see how it pans out.
I have been a huge proponent of bringing in more CB help all off season, I was pissed when we whiffed in free agency and wish we would have done more at the position in general. That being said, regardless of what position they play, I do not believe there can be a roster spot on your team for someone that did what Patterson did. He should be thankful he has a job at all and should be trying to ingratiate himself to the coaches and GM and earn his spot. Instead he has a bad pre-season game, spends most of the rest of the offseason in the rehab area and then appears ready for another pre-season game and just decides not to show up? No way man, I don't want any part of that. Seems to me like if there was a legitimate reason (i.e. health issue, family issue) the media would know about it, Patterson and his agent would want people to know instead of all this AWOL talk. The fact that they are keeping it hush-hush just further indicates to me that there is no good reason for it. Hell, I'd fire the agent right now for not at least leaking a BS story that makes it sound like something better than it is so at least there are reports out there from anonymous sources that things aren't what they seemed and he's not just a whiny diva or whatever. It sucks to decimate an already depleted CB position but it is what it is. I say cut him, sign a few camp casualties for depth and pray that Milliner, Wilson and Walls/Lankster or whoever is a capable starting unit or that our front seven has a much better pass rush than last year and that it makes up for a crappy secondary. That or Pryor has a DROY/Pro Bowl season and teams are afraid to put the ball up in the air anywhere near him. It could get ugly, though.
I totally agree with you. I'm just trying to think of a good reason why we didn't cut him or release more info if it was a good personal reason - if there can be any good personal reason for bailing just before a game without telling anyone. According to the official statement on the Jets site Patterson in still slated as a starter on the depth chart. Not sure anyone has mentioned this. Can't see any reason for putting that on there unless it was to counter the Mehta statement about him being pissed of at his position on the depth chart. http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/art...on-Sep-1/b4c50971-9150-4ef2-b00c-f294feb7d387
Heh. By Kristian DyerPublished: April 25, 2013 Jets select injury-prone Milliner to replace Revis Dee Milliner will instantly be expected to contribute to a now-depleted secondary. The Jets gambled with the No. 9 pick in Thursday night’s NFL Draft, selecting Dee Milliner with their top selection. The move brings in a talented playmaker at cornerback after recently trading Darrelle Revis to the Buccaneers, but the move comes with a high level of risk. There is no denying Milliner was the top cornerback in the draft, based off his play for Alabama last season, but he has a long list of injuries, including a reported five surgeries. Most recently, he had a shoulder surgery which has hampered his draft preparations. http://www.metro.us/newyork/sports/2013/04/25/jets-select-injury-prone-milliner-to-replace-revis/ And those five surgeries were before he came to the Jets. Since then he missed a big chunk of pre-season last year, and now again this year. I suppose one could argue he's not injury prone. But such an argument is not very persuasive, is it?
I agree with Deerow's post at 263. As much as the Jets need help at Cb, it really doesn't look like Patterson is going to be much help. It is also quite plausible the guy is afraid of performing poorly, and does not know what to do about it. Having said that, it is possible that the current situation can be made sense of in one set of circumstances. Its is possible he offered a good explanation for why he was missing for two days, but not for why he did not contact the team. So the suspension is more for no communication than for the being missing part. After all the lack of notice is a separate issue from being missing. I help manage this sort of thing for my company, and while someone going missing without notice is a huge problem, we do not fire the employee until they have a chance to offer an explanation. If the explanation is they spent the last whatever days in a hospital unconscious after being in a car crash or something, that is one thing. If it is because they were in jail after beating up his girlfriend, that's another. And obviously if the employee had no reason at all for not contacting us, that's another still. Despite all that, and the chance he might have offered a reasonable explanation, I think it's too much to depend on him. He sucked against Indy, is injury prone, and the Jets have not seen him get it done on the field. They have to hope they can get a decent Cb over the weekend from some other team's cut down.
This is the biggest thing to take from the whole mess. No one is saying anything. Mehta is speculating but no other reporters are really running with that. Someone besides patterson knows why he left and it has not come out. That is a good thing. As far as if the punishment fits the transgression. Only idz and patterson ca attest to that. The fact that drew rosenhaus isn't talking makes me think that whatever was done is being accepted as fair.
Sorry don't know if this was mentioned, but as a suspended player he doesn't count against our final 53. We get to carry him as an extra roster spot. I'm guessing we wait and see what happens on the final PS game before making a decision. If all our CBs collide and injure themselves, we have to bite the bullet and keep him out of necessity. If they make it through and don't completely stink up the joint, he's gone.
This is quite possible as well. He could have an acceptable reason, but be fined/suspended for going AWOL without telling anyone. In which case the Jets should just say so: "Patterson left due to personal reasons, he has been disciplined for not following correct procedure and we consider the matter closed. No further comments will be made." While no one wants the organisation to be the leaky sieve it was, in this case it is the secrecy that is causing the speculation - well that and it is an area that is likely going to be our weakness anyway..
Will the fact that he doesn't count against the roster make much difference? When the suspension ends - on 1st September - he will count. That's only 1 day by my reckoning. Edit - Mayhem just read what you said properly. Ignore this.
Perhaps, but as you allude to many "credit" the Jets with being tightlipped. Maybe this is the flip side of being too tight lipped. Anyway I was just attempting to make sense of the imo otherwise peculiar situation of suspending him for one pre-season game, given what else we know of the situation. The only alternative I think is that it does not make sense.
Thanks I was wondering about this. I was under the impression that only NFL imposed suspensions don't count against roster spots.
Maybe he is a bit more injury I thought, but it totally depends on what those surgeries were, 5 surgeries might actually not sound like that much after you hear what they actually were. Or maybe I'm wrong, but I'd want to know what they were before making any concessions.
I don;t know why it should totally depend on what the surgeries were for. How about missing chunks of two pre-seasons in a row on top of those surgeries? In any event I disagree the problems he has had are about average for an NFL player.
People can have multiple surgeries for the same injury, and arthroscopic surgery is minimally invasive and many times evaluative instead of being in the nature of repair. Without knowing the nature of the surgeries, certain people are pissing in the wind. As usual.
To be perfectly clear, Patterson walked away from his team without any explanation, That in-and-of itself shows me he had no respect for the team or teammates. Even in the most critical of situations he could have afforded a 1 minute cell phone call even if it was after the fact. It is very likely that it was more a matter of attitude, and probably aggravated by his status in the rankings after a shitty performance. That being the case, he is not the type of player we need on this team, even if we have no CB help. He is displaying the me-me first BS mentality, far worth than Mevis, and without one tenth the talent. IMHO the GM needs to get rid of his ass ASAP and minimize our exposure.
Actually looks like the original info I saw on this was wrong. Just read that he will count against the cap. Oh well.
I agree with the general sentiment that if the FO can find someone suitable from other teams' cutdowns, they will get them and Patterson will be gone.
Patterson was a bad signing from day 1 ,hopefully we can find someone after the final roster cuts to replace him but the odds of that aren't that great ,good players at CB don't typically get cut
