Which Wide receivers make the team?

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  1. Ajitator

    Ajitator Well-Known Member

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    Ummm... Seriously? I came in here talking/posting about Saunders, and the next 3 posts were turned to a conversation about Hill because why? Oh right,. 2 other posters brought him up without me even mentioning his name.

    I post in a number of topics about a range of things because I enjoy talking about the Jets. I really do try to make my posts unbiased and with stats / information to back up my opinions.

    I don't understand how/why that should have any negative affect on the "respect" shown by the people on this board. It's not like I just pull my opinion out of no where and never show anything to back it up.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Just saying. The last time I remember reading someone call you out for posting nothing but Hill stuff, you all of a sudden started posting tweets in one of the camp threads like rapidfire. Seemed forced.
     
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    Well in a discussion about which WR's will make the team, Hill's name will come up a lot. He is no sure thing at all.

    He has no business making this team over Salas. I'll be pretty upset with the Jets if Hill/Gates makes the team and Salas doesnt. Stephen Hill isnt a good football player, he's an amazing athlete. He has been outperformed by Salas and honestly Gates too. But I cant stand Gates lol.
     
  4. Ajitator

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    Haha,. wow you are cynical... There were a number of days that no one seemed to be posting the tweets, And I had slow days at work so I posted them here in the TC thread asI thought people enjoyed it.

    I did not do so to try and "save face" or force that I'm not only here to post about Hill.. I'm here to post and talk about the Jets. If Hill gets cut you likely won't see me bring him up again. I mean,.. christ look at the history of posts on this board, If 80% of the topics and posts are about Stephen Hill, And That's a player that I have an opinion on obviously I'm going to have interest in posting in those topics.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    That article doesnt open up cleanly on my work browser, but it doesnt seem to mention a history of seizures. It says now that he's suffered one, he may suffer more. That really doesnt play at all into whether the Jets should have drafted him.

    I'm sure if the Jets knew he was going to get into an accident and have a seizure, they wouldn't have drafted him. But this says nothing about Saunders pre-draft (at least what is showing up on my browser).
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Seriously, it would be borderline malpractice if a guy had a seizure and his doctor said "nope, it's impossible for you to have another seizure."
     
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    Yea it sounds like a situation where the doctors just couldn't determine why he had it and are not ruling out it happening again. The fact that he was medically cleared to drive and play football is good.

    Also, from the post article SI linked to:

     
  11. Ajitator

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    Or that it's Idziks fault for drafting a guy with said problem.
     
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    There's no evidence that this was an issue at the time he was drafted.
     
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    Yes, I know, I was agreeing with him that it was silly that it turned into "Problem with Seizures" and even more so ridiculous to claim that Idzik should have seen this coming in some way.
     
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    My bad - I misread.
     
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    I was not talking about whether they should have drafted him. I was alluding to the decision what to do with the roster now, going forward. Perhaps Saunders's health issues will be a factor.

    TO clarify I did raise the issue whether they would have picked him if they knew about health problems, but yes I do not think there was any evidence known at the time that he did. I do not blame them for drafting him. The context now is whether he should make the roster, not whether the FO was right to draft him. I apologize for the imprecise language.
     
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    I should also add on this Saunders thing, in case it needs saying, that I am somewhat uncomfortable talking about the Jets looking at his health situation as a factor in whether he makes the team or not. I have no idea ftr whether and to what extent that could affect his play. But if it could, I also expect they would take it into account. Whether I feel comfortable about it or not.
     
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    I think Richardson is pretty much a no-brainer here. Ivory is going to miss some games because he's going to be beat up given his running style and you may want to rest Ivory a little bit as the season progresses and you're going to want to rest CJ some and he may get injured and miss some games too (even though he's been remarkably healthy throughout his career until last year). Richardson is much better than a guy you'd get off the street in that situation and they should definitely keep him
     
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    since he's been cleared I'll assume that won't be a factor at this point
     
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    While I agree Richardson has looked good and I hope he makes the team we have Powel that fills in when/if someone gets hurt. I think it's more about Richardson or TBoh, and I haven't seen much to say that Bohanon deserves more time on the team. I was pretty shocked actually that Young was in the first round of cuts. Puts me further in the boat that we might not be carrying a cut and dry full-back.

    Might be that we keep Richardson, Drop TBoh and move someone into that H-back role. I admittedly don't know enough about Richardson's pass pro to know if he fts into that role. Powell is usually pretty solid in pass pro and we have CJ who is good catching out of the backfield. With the 3 of them I feel we can fill the whole left by TBoh and have 4 guys available at the position that can contribute in other ways.

    Thoughts?
     
  20. Ajitator

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    I would expect a wait and see approach with this, And think Saunders is better served on the practice squad ( if we think he'll make it ) this year regardless.

    OOC, what are people basing it on that Saunders wouldn't clear waivers? I didn't think he was that coveted in the draft and between missing time and not really producing anything on offense I'd be surprised if there were other teams circling in the water for him to hit waivers.

    I'm not super familiar with his college career and didn't know much about him when we picked him.
     

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