I think he will be cut regardless. Idzik and Rex's favorite word has been "competition" for 2 years now. The thing about a competition is that someone wins and someone loses. Salas has clearly won the competition over Hill. It would send a terrible message to the team if Salas was cut in favor of him.
After watching the last game against the Giants I have to admit its time to move on with Hill. During the game I was really watching him on the line and him running his routes. The guy cant break the 5 yard bump and then he is just lost in space. Even when I was trying to watch him through the game I lost him at times. THE GUY just gets lost on the offence. Idzik and Rex didnt pick this guy so lets really and finally clean house from Tanny.
I have no beef with the Hill but, as an organization, you can't preach competition and then keep Hill. He's been clearly outplayed by Salas and arguably a couple of other guys. Keeping him at this point would be a much larger mistake than the wasted roster spot.
geez - with all the talent coming out of college at WR the last couple years, its not a very impressive list.
Well considering Hill is the only receiver this team has drafted higher than Round 4 in over a decade they only have themselves to blame for the lack of talent at the position
It seems pretty clear that the Jets need to do better with their scouting department on the offensive side of the ball.
its really mind boggling. it really befuddles me how a team can go on with such an imbalance at drafting certain positions especially in today's sports world of stats and spreadsheets. How can a GM sign off on this?? i pulled my hair out last May when idzik ripped off 3 straight WR picks - in the middle of the draft! Come on, u really think each one of these guys was BPA. i know everyone likes the "best player available" but u need a balance. thats what we get for drafting all those corners, running backs, and projects.
It is puzzling. Ozzie Newsome is one of the best GMs in the game and he can't seem to spot a quality QB. I've forgotten the name of the Packers' GM, but he either can't seem to spot good OL talent, or refuses to use higher draft picks on them. For whatever reason, it seems that at least some GMs are very good at picking certain positions and not nearly as good at picking others. Then there are some who basically suck, like Tanny, who had to trade up to find talent.
If the Jets want to trade Stephen Hill to a football team, they should try calling the toronto argonauts.
Dude can't run a route right when he knows where he's supposed to be, can you imagine him covering said route?
Joey Clinkscales, Jets V.P. of college scouting thought this guy was the next big thing. Thank God he left the Jets for Oakland.
No trade maybe (unless a team decides to give the Jets a conditional pick) but I could easily see Belichick picking him up even though he doesn't like underachievers. He'd give him a week or two and see if he can function in the NEP offense. Stephen is just a very unproductive player on gameday. Some guys just don't like football.
College Stats of 2 WR's - Both played 3 seasons 49 receptions, 1248 yards, 9 TD's - Played in the ACC in a specialized offense 183 receptions, 3042 yards, 23 TD's - Played in the SEC in an offense with a mix of spread and power. The 1st is Hill. The 2nd is Alshon Jeffery. In what reality can someone honestly say, "Player 1 will have the better NFL career." I have no fucking idea, but that is exactly what the Jets did. 106 receptions. 1352 yards (which is the College Football ALL TIME RECORD). 7 TD's 62 receptions. 973 yards. 3 TD's 36 receptions, 450 yards. 8 TD's. Those are the numbers of 3 Tight Ends in College last season. Obviously the safest bet would be to take the guy who just broke the freaking receiving record right in the 100+ year history of college football. Those numbers in order from top to bottom are Amaro, Ebron, and Sefarian-Jenkins. My point is that Idzik got his chance to pull a Steven Hill and get the obviously wrong player like one of the middling receivers in the 2nd round, and instead hit a home run and took the guy who was breaking records in college. Now Amaro is leading the Jets in receiving during the preseason already, and Stephen Hill can't catch more then 1 ball per game. Seriously being a Scout is not that complicated. "That guy catches alot of passes, let's go after him.". "That guy can't catch very well, let's stay away." It shouldn't be rocket science.
You think St. John de Idzik needs to take a long hard look at our scouting staff maybe? No wonder we haven't drafted a All Pro Wr since Keyshawn. If those numbers are staring you in the face, how on earth do you choose the lower number? Must be those damn "intangibles" again.
Exactly. If two players numbers are close to even, then that is when you look at intangibles as a sort of tie-breaker. I remember the year Suh and McCoy came out the two had extremely similar numbers and college careers, so the Lions went with Suh with the hopes that his attitude and hard nose play would put him over the top. McCoy has turned out to be a little better of a player IMO, but that's the situation where you go to intangibles. Not when one guy has as many yards and TD's in one season as another did in his entire career. I like Saunders too for this reason. He may be small but was literally 3 times more productive then Hill on college. He's a player worth taking a shot on.
It's all about potential, what's hot or what's not nowadays. I swear certain scouts treat prospects like it's fashion. Stephen Hill had a ton of potential - coming from the same offense as Demaryius Thomas, they thought Stephen Hill was a sure-fire pick despite the lack of production. Never mind the fact that D. Thomas was productive in a dominate run offense while Hill was not. We need to new scouts absolutely - I think Idzik looks at collegiate production and has a good % on it in regards to what he's looking for in a prospect. Jets are far too in love with potential in my opinion.
