People keep saying that like it was Hill that decided where the ball was going to be thrown... Hill had to slow up, adjust inside, and Jump for the ball. There's absolutely no way he can do that without breaking his stride. If the ball is thrown better ( Outside and over Hills shoulder, Not underthrown towards the middle of the field ) he takes that and runs with it. The spot the ball is placed there are very few WRs ( if any ) that could / would take that to the house. IMO after watching a number of times and a couple different angles is that Hill made a good play on an underthrown ball. Taking it to the house there would have taken something spectacular from him. I think when that tape is gone over in the film room later, The emphasis will be on where the ball could have been placed to give Hill a better chance,.. Not why or how Hill went up and got it.
I saw the play on a different angle and yes the ball is slightly under thrown. But my thoughts remain the same, he still could've taken it to the house had he not jumped.
If the ball was out another 2 feet I'd agree with you, but it was SLIGHTLY under thrown. Where that ball came down, those defenders were making the tackle regardless of how he caught it. Timing is slightly off. 3 weeks from now that'll be a TD. _
Could, yes... it's possible, But would have taken something really special for him. Some of the posts here made it sound like he gave up a freebie TD by jumping to meet the ball.
That play exemplifies WHY people are critical of the guy. The ball was under thrown but it wasn't that bad to the point where he needed to jump and make that much of an adjustment. Any other decent receiver in that same situation and that would've been 6. And no he didn't need to be Superman in order to score on that play. Just competent.
Sorry, I can't agree with anything you posted here. He practically lands on top of the DB and the safety is on him as he comes down, Even if "any other decent" WR makes that catch without jumping one of those 2 DBS has a really good chance of making that tackle shortly there after.
It is almost impossible to tell. It looks as Stokes said that the timing was a bit off forcing Hill to slow and the DB to catch-up. There is also no reason for him to jump and actually makes the catch harder. All in all a good play with timing that will get better as camp progresses. The separation he got on the CB is really what we should be concentrating on.
The sideline view from that last video makes it pretty clear. Slightly under thrown ball, he slows up just slightly (nice adjustment btw), jumps to cradle the ball (probably unnecessary) the defender to his right is literally making simultaneous contact as Hill catches the ball and the trailing safety to his left has the angle on him and has NOT broken stride so irrespective of the jump BOTH defenders still tackle him. No way that's a TD if he doesn't jump. I'm not so sure it's a TD even with a perfectly thrown ball. With the 2 defenders there to make the play, maybe the jump and cradle was the best play to secure the catch. Maybe if he just extends his arms one of the defenders breaks up the pass. After watching the alternate views, I'm thinking Hill is taking WAY too much flak for that catch. _
But that's the point he has barely given any production. It's not so much about the individual play it's more about the fact that this jumping to catch in your body style isn't going to result in production and hasn't. Until the guy shows that he can legitimately make plays down the field why should faith be put into him to do that because of a couple deep balls in training camp? I don't understand why people right it off as well production is production no matter the technique. I get it but he's never shown us anything outside of a couple deep balls against the leagues worst secondary in Buffalo! By all means I hope he turns out to be a 3 catch 95 yard guy but the indications are that he doesn't seperate well because he can't break off a jam and struggles to simply run by corners because his 4.3 speed is more like 4.5 in pads on the field. That means that corners can run with him and quarterbacks can throw deep to him to give 50/50 balls that he's never going to get because he refuses to attack the ball with his hands. The play just epitomizes his weaknesses and why his game has yet to translate into Sunday game form
No one is asking for faith, Just a little bit of patience. He's not going to get a starting spot based on faith. He's going to get it based on skill and progress. Fixed for ya
Not that he's as terrible as everyone makes him out to be but that's a silly statement. A terrible player whom shows progress and some improvement doesn't ultimately mean that they're a serviceable player just that they're a little less terrible than they used to be.
Agreed. I feel the exact same way. Lets give Geno and the offense a couple pre season games against opposing defenses before we start to bash the offense.
If Hill is going to jump for that he needs to get the ball at its highest point, not catch it like a loaf of bread on the way down. If Landry weren't late to get over and Hill attempts to catch it like that, it's incomplete.
Not when it comes to your useless posts. Rex ruined Tebow's career I hate him. Lets revisit Denver traded him Jets ultimately cut him Patriots cut him but Rex ruined his career. Just stop it already.
We are judging hill o one pass play? He clearly miss timed the ball with an ill advised jump but still made the catch on an average throw. That was one pass from all accounts he has played well this preseason and I look forward to seeing him make more plays. If he cannot do it he will not play but getting that much separation on a NFL DB is not the norm that alone I am will give him the benefit of the doubt. Oh an average receiver would have caught that and went for 6. No, an average receiver would not have been able to get that much separation from the DB and that throw would have been incomplete. The question is does that speed and athleticism offset the awkward way he catches a ball. We will see hopefully by the end of camp.
If this is serious, it's one of the worst posts I've ever seen in my life. Please tell me you're just mocking the Tebow dopes from two years ago...
I am mocking TNJET. He hates Rex because he thinks he ruined Tebow'S career. He works it in every chance he gets.
