Josh Gordon

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  1. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    Of course you can. If you are in a small room with the door shut and windows down, you can get high off the second hand smoke pretty fast and it WILL show up on a drug test.
     
  2. abyzmul

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    And if Gordon wasn't the biggest pothead on the planet, that might actually be a story someone would want to believe.
     
  3. NYJalltheway

    NYJalltheway Well-Known Member

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    Who cares if it's believable? If he was only 1 fraction away from passing especially makes it ridiculous. The same thing happened to me with getting a job at Kimberly Clark. Was on the waiting list for 2 years and some change, and they had to test my sample twice because they weren't sure, still didn't hire me lol. Unbelievably pathetic. It just needs to get legalized already. It would save obscene situations from happening like what happened to me, or what's happening to Josh Gordon right now.
     
  4. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    The link you posted stated,
    , and Gordon came in at 16 ng/ml and 13.63 ng/ml. The people in your link may have a much higher threshold to meet to be considered positive so that it is not an apples to apples comparison.
    I have absolutely no problem with weed but I don't want Gordon back playing just because I think he is such a dumb ass for even taking the chance and putting himself in this situation, let him lose a million for it.
     
  5. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    I've been on hydrocodone for 5 months and accepted a new job just the other day, went about 19-20 hours without my pain meds and passed the drug screen no problem. Some of the heaviest drugs leave the system so much faster than weed so drug testing is somewhat of a farce unless they use high tech methods which most places do not. I think cocaine will not show in a urine test after 3 days but a hair follicle test will be positive for about 3 months.
     
  6. Barcs

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    From the link I posted:

    So if this is true, the lab test only picked up 3-4 NG after 24 hours of constant second hand smoke being pumped into the room. Gordon was at 16 and 13.65, which is 4-5 times higher than that. So he's either lying or he sat in a hotbox with his friends and got high from it (which is the same as smoking it essentially since you get baked).

    That's why I said you need to hot box in order to actually fail a drug test from second hand smoke. If he's getting high from it, then obviously he's going to fail the test. That's the reason they test in the first place. If it was just a few friends smoking every once in a while in a non hot box situation, he wouldn't fail unless the NFL has a threshold of 3-4 NG, which I highly doubt, although it wouldn't really surprise me.

    I do agree, however, that the NFL needs to lighten it's stance on marijuana. You could smoke once and fail a drug test 2 weeks later. It's not performance enhancing, it doesn't give an unfair advantage, it's like drinking a beer with your friends on the weekend. Suspending someone for an entire season for something as harmless as weed, while giving a slap on the wrist (no suspension) for DUIs when they put innocent lives at risk is flat out hypocrisy. You get suspended 2 games for knocking out your wife in public, but an entire year for a victimless crime. Goodell has done some alright things recently, but this needs to change.
     
  7. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    This is what I was referring to
    Didn't look that far into it since I think he is a dumb ass for putting himself in the situation in the first place.
     
  8. Barcs

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    Yes I know, and I agree with that. Extreme exposure pretty much means hot boxing or taking shotguns. I didn't say it was impossible, but you'd have to be getting high from the fumes to push the limits past 50 and it would be no accident. I agree he's an idiot as much as I disagree with NFL's strict policy on weed. He knew the policy but still got high. His excuse isn't going to hold up and his suspension will most likely will still be enforced because he's obviously BSing, but it may open up future talks about making the policy more lenient.

    In all likelihood he either

    A: Smoked weed a week or so before the test,
    B: sat in a hotbox with his friend and got high, or
    C: smokes it all the time and tried to fake the test with one of those cleansing drinks but screwed up in this particular instance
     
    #68 Barcs, Jul 31, 2014
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