What about slapping a polar bear? Not a good example? But seriously, I think your hopes for a 1-2% range here was overly optimistic considering some of the types of folks we have on this board. Pretty distressing in 2014 where we are as a society. _
Nope. It was about whether somebody hitting back is "acceptable". Not whether I would personally do it. In some situations it is and in some it's not. Like I said a thousand times, every situation is different. This isn't a black and white issue.
I understand that reading paragraphs or more than 2 lines can be very difficult for some people. Control + is great tool for zooming in and can help you read. I guess you've never read a book before. I don't play the victim, I get insulted over personal opinions constantly on here because they are controversial and folks are too lazy and intellectually dishonest to debate the majority of my points. When I debate I always address every point made, but I don't get the same respect. When somebody is desperate enough to ignore my points and insult me, then they are going to get multiple lines of sarcasm. You don't like reading that? Don't insult me, it's simple. I didn't insult anybody in my initial responses, and generally never do until they come at me first. Despite having a controversial opinion, I try to keep it civil. Folks get emotional, however. Maybe if you read one of my earlier posts in the topic you'd understand where I'm coming from, I broke everything down, but folks like to ignore everything except nitpicking single lines and trying to pigeonhole my position. It gets old. In the abortion thread I got compared to Hitler and the holocaust. Now I'm being accused of championing hitting women because retaliating may be necessary in some situations. Anyways my points have been made, I'm not repeating them again. If anybody wants to bring the debate instead of childish name calling, I'd be down to discuss it.
I gave a pretty straight forward situation, you are choosing to muddy the water so as to not make your mindset seem so antiquated. Granted the question was whether someone hitting back is acceptable not you personally but if you think it is OK to respond as such it would be a simple hop skip and a jump to assume that is how you are going to react because you think it is acceptable. You answered yes and that tells me multitudes about you. I voted no because I think any male in that situation should extract themselves from that situation if at all possible.
Not going to go through this whole thread but IMO the reason why it shouldn't be acceptable to hit women in a general sense is that in all but very rare cases most women are of no real threat to inflicting any serious bodily harm to a man and ultimately are powerless in such a situation from a physical standpoint. The overwhelming majority of men could subdue a woman without injuring them, and whenever that is the case it should be the first option. It's kind of like hitting a child. Seeing a grown man punch a child is unacceptable because the power dynamic is so extreme that there are very few circumstances where it should be considered an OK thing to do.
For those "never, ever" guys out there, how many free slaps does she get? How many punches? How many shots with a Louisville slugger?
I think this has already been gone over. How often do you think you will find yourself in a situation where a woman is going to be able to continue to wail on you in what ever form without you being able to walk away? It seems from your Louisville slugger comment you are going to hit the bitch anyway so why bother with the posturing?
But it's not straight forward and never is. Every situation is different. Sometimes you may be able to walk away, sometimes you might not. People thinking in absolutes like this is what is detrimental to this country. I believe in equality over all. Situational awareness matters. Otherwise you are like that cop that just shoots every dog he sees that shows his teeth to be safe with no regards for the situation or other solutions. It is a hop, skip and jump off a cliff, if you're talking logic. Just because I deem something acceptable in society in certain situations, does not mean that I would personally do it. My stance on abortion is the same. Every situation is different, but it is acceptable in society. Does that mean I would personally advocate it if my wife got pregnant? Nope. But yeah that should tell you multitudes about me. I don't see things in black and white. I don't see how people can't understand the uniqueness of individual circumstances in a given situation. You can't universally say that one way is the only acceptable way to handle every situation imaginable. That's why I voted yes, because there are a small amount of situations where it would be the right choice without you knowing your life is in danger. In most I probably would just walk away, but if the girl is persistent and won't stop assaulting me I have no choice but to defend myself. Don't blame me because you worded the question so poorly.
What if the aggressor is gay and they are going after the same man. Is it acceptable then? Same height and weight.
Stop languishing in vagaries Barcs, all you've done in this thread is spout cliches amid rambling like a mental patient. Step outside the circle of your own bullshit rationalizations and aspergers and consider the fact that you might be the one with the problem, not the rest of the world.
Barcs: you're NFL Commisionner: how long do you suspend Ray Rice? 1. One game 2. One half 3. One period 4. First series of downs
If you are in a situation where you did not see the bat coming, you deserve to get hit by a Louisville. Let's not act stupid, we are grown men here and we can see any situation escalating, BEFORE it escalates, walk away and we won't have to worry about what we would do in a situation that might get to the point of getting hit by a woman.
