No one ever said any of the shit you keep saying so stop the bullshit already. No one said anything she did was acceptable the only issue was Ray Rice's response which was wrong in any moral or legal sense, you are arguing otherwise.
The bold is part of the point. He shouldn't have hit her. So the consequence of his actions was jail time and whatever punishment he gets from his job. He was accountable for his actions.
Isn't there a video of Jay Z getting continuously wailed on by Beyonce's sister and he never raised a hand to defend himself or restrain her? I can't believe Jay Z was raised better than 1985 or Zace. _
Stop the childishness. Isn't it 3rd period already, aren't you going to be late for gym or something. _
Except you're kinda hitting the right point there is no easy answer. So dont be quick to condemn him and absolve her of her wrong doing. Thats my whole point. They were both wrong, She did something that she should have expected some form of retaliation. She probably could have done about 50 other things that he may have not responded to. So don't sit here and give me the hes horrible but shes ok speech. Id like to see how calm everyone really is if you're in the situation. Its very different when you're not typing on a computer and you're dealing with the crap in person. Im all for the argument that nobody should hit anybody, but its not oh its ok for her to do what she did, but its not ok to respond and yada yada. People aren't robots and to sit and say you'd just walk away if it happened to you....I think is a little disingenuous. You wont know unless it happened to you.
That's not what your main point is, the point that so many have called you out for looking the fool. You said his punching her-while he shouldn't have done it- was completely ACCEPTABLE. WARRANTED in fact. _
There is an easy answer, walk away and dump her. But once again where did I or anyone else ever say what she did was OK. Stop adding bullshit that was never said. The discussion was his response.
No one has absolved her of ANYTHING. No one said what she did was okay. The retaliation was not appropriate. Geezuz. _
My point is this you want to discuss it fine. Stop passing judgement as tho you are morally superior. I dont feel as tho either of them acted inappropriate. Just dont condone her while condemning him. Thats what equality is about. Its not about whos bigger badder or whatever. Simple respect on both of their ends would have stopped the escalation. You can disagree and not physically fight or spit on someone. Hes not more wrong than she is both were disrespectful acts.
I already said it. apparently you missed that. You're also missing one key point, I wouldn't be with a woman who would do that in the first place.
I am arguing about accountability. He made an error in judgement, he did something he shouldn't have done. He gets dragged through the mud. She had a lapse in judgement, I said she shouldn't have spit on him, her consequence was getting knocked out and getting arrested. This situation isn't about morals it's about right and wrong and people making mistakes. So without anyone saying she is being given a pass.
Again where are you reading this? No one has once in this argument condoned what she did. But you and 1985 have strenuously CONDONED his retaliation. Stop confusing the issue. Spitting = bad, assault, disrespectful, disgusting. Illegal. Could get you killed in Irvington NJ. We clear? Punching your 110 pound fiancé when you're a 230 pound world class running back in a violent sport because she spat on you is morally reprehensible and in no way acceptable, justifiable, warranted. Not in the world I was raised in. So yeah, I'll make judgments on moral superiority if I want to. _
Don't flatter yourself. You weren't raised well at all. You're just to ignorant to see it yourself. 1985 is right....Its called accountability. Neither was right nether was more wrong. I find it funny that you sit here and say if this were a gay couple, you'd be ok with that. I wouldn't, I dont see the difference. Just because someone is a man does not make them superior physically. Were talking individual, not every man is physically gifted. It shouldn't matter. So the law should protect someone because they are physically superior? I just love how you have all the answers to the problem without thinking the whole situation through. Both of them are wrong, period end of story. Don't be such a judgmental ass who feels he knows so much better.
Because you've found one person to agree with you. Lol. Back to Social Studies before to second bell rings. _
Yes I was and yes I do. You'd punch you wife or fiancé or girlfriend if she spat in you. I wouldn't. It's that simple. Are we clear? _
Doesnt make you right. For someone who claims to be so intelligent, you're very short sighted to the bigger issue. And lets get one thing straight. being 5ft 9 inchs and 230 is not the same as being 6ft and 230. Again I cant stress this enough....clearly she was not too intimidated to spit at him in the first place. So dont give me the physical superiority argument. They both made bad decisions and both are wrong. Im not condoning either of their actions. Im saying they are both wrong, but she shouldn't have expected no form of retaliation for her. I don't feel bad for her. Thats like telling an adult don't touch the hot stove and they do. So again let me be clear.....Both are wrong. NO I do not feel bad for her nor is she a victim. He is not worse than she is, clearly both need a lesson in respect. Neither action is justified or right. Women need to learn to be accountable for their actions and not attempt to hide behind public morality after they make a mistake. Am I clear now.
