Wtf. They were BOTH CHARGED. That does not condone what Rice did. Now you're starting to sound like 1985 confusing legal ramifications with what's right and wrong. YOU said start shit like a man and deal with the consequences like a man. In other words it's perfectly fine to punch and knock out your fiancé/wife/girl friend if she spat on you. _
Because you're so argumentative that you're missing what im saying. Im not saying walk around and punch women. Im not saying walk around and punch men for that matter. I assumed you understood the laws in NJ and I figured you would realize im not advocating violence period. It doesn't matter size, gender, or race. Women should not get special treatment. It should be treated the same regardless.
Treatment by the law and treatment but slugging a women have NO relation to each other. You're just trolling right? _
of course she was in the wrong for spitting on him. the question is whether his response was appropriate. given the physical superiority that men have over women and especially this man had over women ... well it just doesn't seem morally right for him to respond that way. social equality is completely irrelevant to the discussion.
If the circumstance calls for it HELL YEAH. Take that and quote it. I dont really care if you respect or like how i feel.
Let me get this straight. If your fiancé or wife or girlfriend spat on you, you would punch her and knock her out. _
You said he shouldn't have hit her, but because she spat in him he was justified in hitting her. Don't play the idealist child and deny all the other idiotic things you've said in this thread. _
Thats what im talking about. You completely just disregard her actions and go to his. It easy to say what we should have, but we aren't involved in it. Doesnt matter if he was physically superior or not, clearly that did not deter her which is why she escalated it. She thought she would getaway without a problem. Again not saying he had punch or spit at her, but im not going to sit here and condemn him for what happened. Its simple had she not have spit on him, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Yet you have said at least a dozen times just in this thread that you would punch a woman for spitting on you. If that is how you really feel then why was Rice wrong?
You dont do that period. That is a sign of complete disrespect. She should have expected retaliation. Not saying it was right or wrong, but she shoud have expected it.
But she did spit on him and he made the wrong choice in hitting her. He could have walked away, dumped her and we would never have this thread. She could have then been charged and we could have said, look at Ray Rice, he could have taken the easy way out and hit her but he was the bigger man and walked away.
He made the point I was trying to make throughout this thread. Accountability. Men (for the most part) are physically stronger than women. So as a woman why would you step to a man and try to engage him physically? Accountability. Being physically stronger doesn't make you immune to making bad choices, or emotions getting the better of you. If you hit a woman you go to jail. A woman in the heat of moment with her emotions getting the better of her hits a man, and it's okay?
So you are condoning what Rice did? If he didn't punch her, she would have been disappointed, yes? But again I'll ask you. Your wife or fiancé or girlfriend spat on you. You're hauling off and punching her, right? I mean, your well within your rights, the NJ penal code permits you to punch a woman if she spits on you, right? Isn't that what you were referring to about assault in NJ? So please, just say it. You'd punch the woman you were about to marry if she spat on you. Say it. _
His physical superiority is the crux of the issue. No one has or will argue that she wasn't in the wrong spitting on him.
