Or you could ask the Seahawks that question. could also ask the Cowboys and 49ers of the 90's why they were tripping over each other trying to outbid for Deion every offseason. could ask the Broncos and Patriots why they plunked down so much for Talib and Revis, in an effort to get over the top. or could ask Coughlin himself why the Giants just overspent like that for DRC?
I get what you are saying, and there are some decent points in there. If you look at the Jets situation though, they could have afforded Revis while still acquiring Decker and Johnson. Revis signed for 12M, not 16M. We spent 3M for Patterson. So an extra 9M (of which we have like over 20M available), would have put our defense at the top of the league. Pryor, Landry, Revis and Milliner, with Wilson, McDougle, and Allen makes our secondary a strength. It also keeps a top CB in the league off our hated divisional rival. a move like that could be the difference in winning the East. all for essentially 9M. it's something to think about.
He's also there for only one year, in a year where we aren't exactly super bowl contenders. If next year we think we're going to be super bowl contenders, sign him if we think it will complete what we want to do on defense. Taking him this year would have been exciting, but no the beat for the future of the team.
Revis will be an excellent signing this season and next provided that next season's contract is also for one year. After that his play will drop off.
Because they both already had HOF QBs (not to mention pro-bowlers at literally every other position, on both teams) and there was no salary cap?
The poster was suggesting top CB play is not important to winning a championship. Obviously many teams in the salary cap era, and before it, disagree. That is why CB's get drafted high every year, and are one of the highest paid FA positions (even with the salary cap). Having a top CB is not absolutely essential if you are very strong on other areas of the team, but it sure makes things easier.
My suggestion is if you cannot be bothered to read the articles yourself you should go look it up yourself. Doing a quick search here we can see a recent article quoting from march articles that the Jets were Revis' 1st chocie. If you look up March articles I am sure you can find ones that detail Revis' process where he said loved Ryan, wanted to play for Ryan and the Jets, but the Jets refused to speak with him and only when it was obvious the Jets had no interest did he consider other teams. I am happy to provide you information if you would like it. But to be attacked by you for trying to provide assistance then be asked by you to do work for you requires a great deal of aggressiveness and arrogance.
I get where you're coming from but the person wasn't really asking for someone to do research for him. Also, if the OP was making the case of the thread (which I don't believe he is), then it would've been on him to respond to a request to back up his claim.
I couldn't care less about "many teams" (particularly those prior to the salary cap, as building a team now, under these rules, is completely different than it was then); I care only about "Super Bowl contending/winning" teams. How many Super Bowl teams featured $10 mil+ cornerbacks since the salary cap began?
As the salary cap has grown, so has the number of recent 10M+ CB's in this league. If you won't compare pre salary cap teams, then you can't really compare 20 years ago, or even 5-10 years ago either, as the salary cap wasn't nearly as high. As for 2014: You say you only care about Super Bowl contending/winning teams (which is a poor argument to begin with), but i already listed 3 of the top contenders for 2014, Seahawks, Broncos, and Patriots, all with 10M+ CB's. So obviously they feel it's important. I wouldn't consider the Browns or Cardinals contenders, but i think they made the right move as well.
I don't believe you have to be a super bowl favorite in order to improve your team with a shorter term contract. The only argument that makes sense to me is the impact of spending vs saving in 2014 on the teams future. That is a valid concern. Obviously we will have more money now to work with in 2015. If we could have signed Revis to a 2 year deal in the 24M range tho, i would have taken it. Not exactly sure if Revis would have, but he said the Jets were his preferred location, so you never know. We should have at least inquired. No games, here's our price, take it or leave it.
and what happens next summer when he feels he outplayed his salary and the holdout talks heat up again?
Oh no no no no no ... those teams haven't won dick with 8% of their salary caps going to one cornerback (as you suggest we should have done with Revis). The Seahawks won a Super Bowl last year with Sherman making $1.4 million. This year he's making the same. Next year he starts making $14 million a year; LMAO - good F-ing luck winning a Super Bowl with that anchor around your salary cap. DRC made $5 mil for Denver last year, not $8-10 mil.
Here's what I would have done differently if I were Revis. I would not have held out before my rookie season to get extra money above and beyond the slotted contract thatbwas fair for the 14 th pick in the draft. As the best player on the Jets and a supposed team leader, I would not have held out before the 2010 season to attempt to get a contract that paid me more than the clearly ridiculous contract the Raiders were paying Asomaugh. I would have signed a long term deal rather than the $46 million band aid that guaranteed annual contract disputes. I would have realized that the $46 million contract I got made me the highest paid CB in the NFL and would have been happy playing for that money for a team and a coach that designed a defense to showcase my talents. When the team fell into turmoil in 2011, I would not have remained invisible. I would have taken on a leadership role n the locker room and showed I cared about the team and winning by supporting the coach and the QB and disputing all the negative rumors in the preess and putting the malcontents and press leakers in their place. i would have acted like the leader indicated by my status with the team and the respect my comments would have had. I would have said something publicly about the Jets and my teammates rather than talking about my contract constantly. In the 2019, 2011, and 212 offseasons, when asked if I was holding out, I would have sais no. I would have changed agents. I would have cared about winning as much or more than I cared about being the highest paid CB in the NFL. Want me to go on?
People act like it was just one hold out. Revis is the only player I can remember who held out or threatened to hold out as much as he had.
Revis set an NFL record for threatened hold outs in his first 6 years in the league. I never in 48 years of following the NFL saw a player care more about his contract than anything else than Revis. Good riddance.
you wanted Super Bowl contenders who have invested heavy on a CB.. 2014 right here.. http://www.overthecap.com/top-player-salaries.php?Position=CB APY Revis 16M (although its really a 1yr 12M deal, as year 2 will never happen) Sherman 14M Shields 9.75M Talib 9.5M (He's on Denver now if you didn't know) Plenty of others up there too, and Patrick Peterson about to cash in. So are you suggesting Seattle, Green Bay, Denver, and New England have no shot at winning this years Super Bowl? sure seem like legit contenders to me..
wouldn't be tough to word a 2yr deal which would all but make a 2015 holdout impossible. and as greedy an SOB as Revis is, i don't see anyone leaving 12M on the table when turning 30.
I am pretty sure Richard Sherman didn't sniff 10+M salary last year when they won SB. [Base salary under 600k - and I am pretty sure the other bonuses didn't add up to the range of 5M, much less 10M] As for Deion - both 49ers and 'Boys were loaded, and since they didn't have to worry about the hard salary cap, Deion was the next logical step. And Broncos/Patriots are on the same boat - they are BOTH win-now teams, with their aging QBs. Once both QBs are gone, see how the DBs are treated. And Giants didn't blow 10+M on DRC.
