I wonder how much Rex will risk Vick to injury during our 4 pre-season games? Will Rex play it straight up and treat Vick like any other BU? Sending him out there with the 2nd unit, backups, and a few scrubs for half a game at times? Or might Rex split first team reps between Geno (75%) and Vick (25%), then send out Simms and Boyd to mop things up? For most teams, the BU QB is some youngster who's been on the team a few years and will never see the field so it's not dooms day if he gets injured during pre-season. They'll just sign another guy the next day. But for Rex, Mike Vick is different. Yes, he's the BU, but he's also the guarantee that we make the playoffs. If Geno hits a rough patch or re-injures his throwing ankle our season ain't over. It's Michael Vick to the rescue and everyone gets to keep their jobs. So what, if anything, will Rex do differently with his QB rotation to ensure he has a healthy Vick come opening day?
Good point, although I don't think Vick playing makes the playoffs a wrap.. I think that Simms and Boyd will be battling for the #3 spot at the time. Rex had a touch of reality last preseason. No point in taking a major risk like that.
he does need some reps if he's not getting many in practice but we also have a competition for qb3 so hopefully those guys are out there more than vick.
Of course not, BUT I have to think that before Idzik dropped $4M on a backup QB he had MM's assurance that if need be Vick could come in and 'play very well' in MM's WCO system. With jobs on the line, Idzik scratched the check. With Vick's injury history plus last year's Snoopy Bowl, I don't think we'll see Vick out there very much with the scrubs. The most important thing with pre-season is for your starters to make it through w/o injury, and we can add Vick to that group as well. Not sure where Vick will get his playing time, but I don't think it will be with the scrubs.
I stopped reading after "Vick guarantees us a playoff spot" Nothing is guaranteed in the NFL. I like to believe Rex and the organization learned from last year and will play Vick accordingly
haha I know...I invented it last training camp when Geno hurt his 'throwing ankle' pffft One of the coaches was saying his ankle injury was more serious b/c it was the ankle he pushes off of when throwing the ball.....
The team would absolutely be better with Vick under center, but the IDEAL situation is for Geno to keep progressing and take us to the POs himself. That's a big enough deal to start the season with Geno on a short leash. Which means there's a fairly good chance Vick will be called upon to earn his $4M, which is taking the Jets to the POs.
Vick doesn't really need that much reps. A series or two should suffice. Then let Boyd and Simms clean up.
Sure you play them both, but we saw what can happen when the starters are on the bench. I was just curious how Rex & MM will balance Vick getting his reps during pre-season games against the risk of injury playing with the backups.
There is no way Vick will be playing behind the 3rd or 4th string OL, and most likely he will only play behind the 1st string OL. He's not only an established vet but he has experience in this offense. The only thing he needs is some time with the WR/TEs in live action to get their timing together.
I think we could see a lot of Simms in preseason. If you look at our roster there are going to be some seriously difficult decisions, and because of that I think we may consider having just 2 active QBs on the roster, and put Boyd on the PS. Putting Boyd there means not playing him as much. Tough call. I think we may not keep a FB this year either.
Vick will definitely play this preseason. However, I do think Rex is still a little shell-shocked from last year. Once the 3rd stingers are on the field, Geno & Vick should both be sitting on the bench.
I never understood this. Aren't they playing against 3rd string defenders too? Is it only 3rd string OL that stink? QBs who play with 1st and 2nd stringers don't get sacked or hit? What happened to Sanchez last year could happen at any time with any players on the field. People act as if Sanchez playing late in a preseason game and getting hurt was like Brady or Manning or Brees getting hurt under the same circumstances. The Jets had a QB competition last year among an untested rookie and a veteran who had regressed and was fighting for his NFL career in the last year of a contract after a horrendous 2012 season. Sanchez was put in the game late in the 4th quarter because the game was on the line and Ryan wanted to see if he could win the game and tilt the competition in his favor. He scrambled on a play and was hit and landed wrong. It turned out to be one of the best things that happened last season. It ended the QB competition and put the Jets one step closer to resolving the QB situation. It ultimately gave Smith an invaluable opportunity to play and develop so that he is now a 2nd year starter and the Jets will be in a better position to evaluate him this season. It mercifully ended the Sanchez era. It also spared us from a week to week discussion of who would be the starting QB. It was bad enough some people thought Simms should start. Imagine if Sanchez had been healthy. Bottom line. Vick will play this preseason because that is what the preseason is for. He will not be coddled and protected from injury any more than any other player who is a lock to make the roster.
Well, the thing is- you don't normally put a QB who is competing for a starting role behind anything but the 1st string O-line. You always want to give your starting QB, or a guy competing for that role the best protection you can give him in preseason games. In training, you can just tell the d-linemen "do NOT hit the QB, he's wearing a red shirt- do NOT hit him. PERIOD." And threaten them with $100,000 fines if they do, or being cut from the team, etc. You simply can't do that to opposing d-lines in preseason games. Therefore, you need to give him your best protection at all times. Yes, it's third stringers against third stringers- but you want to minimize the risk of the QB getting hurt, and you can't do that with your third string o-line. The QB is a different position than any of the others, and the general consensus is that you don't take any extra chances in terms of injuries at that position. There's no way to know what would've happened had Sanchez not gotten hurt, so there's no use speculating about it too much. I wanted Smith to be the starter, but it was still definitely a mistake to put him at that heightened risk of getting hurt. I'm not saying Sanchez was a good QB, I'm saying that as a matter of policy, you can only risk your 3rd (or 4th) string QBs behind the "struggling to make the team" o-line. Not potential starting QBs.
Really good points. The only thing I might add is that Vick probably doesn't need as many reps at his age. You don't really need Vick to prove too much other than the fact that he is healthy and mobile, so I think he will definitely see less playing time than Sanchez did. If Geno really stinks it up (which I dont anticipate), Vicks playing time may increase though.
If Rex is hesitant to put Vick out there behind anything but our best O-Line then that probably means we keep Simms and Boyd throughout pre-season if only to get through the 4th game. Which means Simms(?) won't get whacked until the final cut down which may not leave him time to hook up with another team.
