Full on whine now. You are completely ignoring the crux of the argument - the people - so you can attack the religion. And you're doing a terrible job of it.
Your argument consists of nothing except stating that you disagree with me, littered with personal jabs. Quote one thing I said about Islam and debunk it then. Islam produces more extremists, terrorists, and death than any other religion by an extremely large margin. The Koran is a hateful text. The precedents set by Mohammad were ones of violence. This is the crux of the argument.
I love how Mangolden Showers is just burying himself deeper and deeper. It was only a few pages ago that this guy was vehemently arguing that religion never causes wars and that it's really the people's fault and had nothing to do with the religion, but now all of a sudden we're not talking about his religion and he's going to town on how Islam is so violent and is ruining the world. Absolutely hilarious. I guess I'm just a nazi who supports genocide. MS, do you believe that it is okay to have slaves as the bible condones? Do you think it is okay to beat your slaves? Stone you to death for adultery or pre marital sex? That women are inferior to men? These are all things commanded by god in the old testament. But yeah it's just "historical context" so it's fine. LMAO. "And in case men struggle together (in a fight) with one another, and the wife of the one has come near to deliver her husband out of the striking one (to save her husband), and she has thrust out her hand and grabbed hold of his private (the other man's groin), she must then get both her hands cut off, and the eyes of the men must feel no sorrow." Historical context? Hitting a man in the nuts in self defense means losing your hands? Ok, maybe this one I can dig. "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives." So rape is justified as well, as long as it is a virgin and you marry the girl afterwards. Historical context? Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." Burning to death for premarital sex? 1Cor:14:35: "And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." Women treated as inferiors. DEUTERONOMY 25:5 If the husband dies without impregnating the wife, then the "brother" of the dead husband MUST marry his wife. The female CANNOT marry anyone else, but ONLY her dead husband's brother . Sounds legit. I'm no Islam supporter, but to bitch and whine about how violent it is and in the same breath condoning the absurdity of the violence commanded by god in the old testament, is hypocritical. They are both violent religions when you look at what god actually commands and does. I mean really, you quote a website called "religionofpeace" which is specifically an anti Islam site, obviously biased. It's true, however that most violent passages in Islam are referring to when you are under persecution. It was written while they were being attacked by the Pagans. That's how pretty much all moderate Muslims that I know describe it. The Qua'ran could easily be considered "historical context" as well since they were AT WAR when it was written.
I'm not talking about Islam, I'm talking about the people that practice it. Catch up. I never was talking about Islam, yet you keep trying to steer me toward that argument. I asked you if you could cite the many examples Christians being abducted and murdered simply because of their religion, and you tried to steer it toward the Koran. What exactly do you not understand?
Lol Barcs shows his face again now that he has byz to hide behind. My original argument was with the understanding that the Koran was a peaceful text. After researching it I found that is not true. If you bothered to read my posts I already acknowledged that this was now contrary to my previous argument that all religion is good. So yea. I'll agree with you there would probably be less wars without Islam or any other religions that encourage the slayings of non-believers. But please don't come at me with that Old Testament crap again, it's a super weak argument considering Jesus came along and negated all that shit and do we see Jews chopping women's heads off and quoting that shit? No. Do you see Muslims doing it and quoting the Koran? Yes. Byz, a few posts ago I posted a news article from like two days ago that is about how Christianity was exterminated from Mosul, people that had lived there for 1600 years persecuted and driven out. Christians are a primary target of terror attacks on a weekly basis. Really dude just google news it.
I never responded to your original argument. Maybe you can some day understand that. If it's so easy to find Google it yourself. I'm not going to research your points for you.
Outside of Israel, are there any Christians or Jews living in the Middle East? Middle Eastern Muslims seem like really hospitable, tolerant people lol The kind of people you would want to go vacation and visit with. Why can't everyone get along over there?
ISIS recently told all Christians to leave Iraq, convert to Islam or they will be killed. So I'm guessing there are or were some there?
I know. Real nice gesture. At least they let them live I guess. Too bad for the dude who got swallowed by a whale, I heard they blew his grave site up. Ancient history detonated for the "good" of the world lol
CIA doesn't control BBC, but I'm not pretending BBC isn't a mouthpiece for propaganda. ISIS, really? Why would an islamic terrorist group name itself with western language? Don't they hate the western world? That's fucking ludicrous. And al Qaeda was the same. At least the Taliban was an actual entity. al Qaeda never existed prior to the US trying to build a militant force in Afghanistan to oppose the Russians. ISIS conventiently shows up when the US wants to supplant Assad to run a gas pipeline through Syria. This is all a show to allow our country to yet again make it's moves to control world economy, except in this case it is rushed and messy because our currency is about to be abandoned by most of the world and our asshole politicians are desperate as hell.
Forgot about the name, there is a militant Muslim group controlling a large portion of Iraq right now, isn't there? How did the CIA do this?
The US government occupied that country for a decade and a half. Why exactly do you think it's not possible?
I just don't understand to be honest. Are you saying the CIA spent 15 years in Iraq training these guys?
Our military spent at least 10 years training Iraqi personnel. It would have been easy to talent scout during that interval. It's the way they find our own special forces. Did you really think they were just going to pull up stakes and leave? The last time they did that was Korea.
