Geno Smith: Not Worst QB

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Very good post. After the first few sentences, my first instinct (because, if you haven't figured it out already, I am an asshole) was to smash your post due to the bad decision to insert Sanchez into that Giants game in the pre.

    The second half of your post runs really true to me. There was zero evidence that Geno had prepared for the WCO at all. And he could afford to. He would have been smart to. He obviously didn't. Was it arrogance?

    We have this season to figure him out. If he doesn't show marked improvement, the people that want him to have multiple years to proves himself need to check themselves. He has not done enough to play on this team.

    Period.
     
  2. wGENOvFANu

    wGENOvFANu Active Member

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    Not saying that is the case, but it very well could be.

    For example...in his first year under Holgorsen in college (2011) Geno and our offense was very inconsistent (a lot like he was last year for the Jets). By the time they got through one season (and the bowl practices) and learned the offense everything started clicking for him and the rest of the offense and as a result you saw the Orange bowl and what he did in the 2012 season.

    I think two things that will make Geno a much better QB in '14 that have nothing to do with fundamentals will be...

    1) the fact that he knows the offense completely now
    2) he has developed chemistry with his WRs (and they stay healthy)

    I think a lot of people underestimate the importance of playing with WRs that you know. His bad stretch of games last year came mostly when he was playing with a group of WRs that weren't even in training camp with him.

    But I think Geno will look like an improved QB just from those two things alone. If he has improved his footwork and other things as well, that should only help make him better.

    One thing I would really like to see him fix is him staring down his WRs, as he did that all through college and I've always thought that was one of his biggest flaws.
     
  3. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Last season I'm not sure if Geno was staring down his WRs or trying to read the name on the back of their jersey so he knew who he was throwing the ball too!
     
  4. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Please detail how Geno Smith knows the offense "completely".
     
  5. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Nah he was staring at his receivers.

    Case and point pick 6 against the Panthers. Stared Holmes down like crazy. I blame Holmes a little bit as well but Geno has to have better decisions with the ball
     
  6. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Because he's a WVU/Geno fan.

    Hope counts for reality in these parts.

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  7. Footballgod214

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    Be borrowed the play book from Belicheck?
     
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    I know, I was JK. Any QB who stares down his WR is asking for trouble. I can't defend Geno BUT part of the 'stare down' might be related to his uncertainty of who the WR is, how fast he's running, and where he'll be 1.397 seconds after the ball leaves his hand. Add the pressure to make good passes and cut down on turnovers and I'd probably stare down my WR
    too.

    There's something to be said for chemistry and years of playing together, something Geno hasn't had yet. If 2 yrs from now he's staring Decker down on a simple out pattern then yeah, Geno will officially suck.
     
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    He came down with a little bit of Sanchez Syndrome. He got so scared of throwing picks that he stared at his intended receivers for an extra second just to be completely sure they were going to be open. Ironically, doing that makes the receiver less open and an interception more likely. Once you start playing confidently, you tend to stop staring down receivers as much. That is, if you haven't been benched or cut by then.
     
  10. wGENOvFANu

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    Just going by what Rex, Marty, and his teammates have said.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Link please.
     
  12. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Spot on.

    Anyone who's ever played FB in the backyard knows first hand how powerful the instinct is to look at what you're trying to hit. Now add the speed of the NFL, some freak named Revis 6 inches away from your WR, and some bass ass monster MF'er named The Sons of Anarchy trying very hard to kill you. Not just once but EVERY PASSING PLAY....30 times a game.

    I'm surprised a single rookie QB ever makes it through his inaugural season!
     
  13. wGENOvFANu

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  14. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Man, that's some good stuff, thanks for googling it for me.

    I'm looking forward to his mastery of the West Coast Offense now.

    This is exciting.
     
  15. Jets Esq.

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    Haha, thanks!

    I think Geno was probably overwhelmed, and a little overconfident. He works hard, but perhaps on a lot of the wrong things.

    Hopefully the coaches gave him detailed instructions on what he needed to work on before OTAs, and then hopefully he actually worked on them with the right help. I looked it up, and he went to the same "QB guru" he went to before his rookie season, which is not encouraging. Tried to find out if the guy was a WCO QB, I'm not sure if he is or not.

    We can get a better sense of where he's at in the preseason games. Last preseason, he was running out of the back of the end zone. This year, he has to look like an NFL quarterback.

    I'm rooting for Geno to get it done, but I'm glad that we have Vick as the season's insurance policy.
     
  16. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    A little clue, if you are going to utilize the "Let Me Google That or You" site you may want to make sure what you think is there is actually there.
    Guess you didn't realize that not one article on the first page of the search even came close to saying he knows the offense "inside and out" or "completely"? I read many reports coming out of mini-camp and don't remember it being said either.
    If you continually post overblown accolades about Smith before he has earned the plaudit then await an equally superfluous rejoinder.
     
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  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Come on, Waterdude. Geno Smith knows every single aspect of this offense now. He's a veteran. He knows the offense.

    We can now expect him to play like a seasoned man. There are obviously no excuses.

    He knows everything.
     
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    I wish they listed the percentage rather than the total. That can make it a bit deceptive. A league leading total for 3rd and long conversations, but what was the league average in total 3rd&L attempts?
     
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    Whoops double post
     
  20. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Don't know what I was thinking, I have come to my senses, the Genome knows all, he is like the Stephen Hawking of the gridiron, I will expect Peyton like numbers this year.
     

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