Young, talented, and CHEAP

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  1. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Damn you just called him Marv Albert?
     
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  2. Turbocharged23

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    Good lord Kerley makes less than Jacoby ford
     
  3. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Avg $/yr
    Dee Miliner $3,156,250
    Sheldon Richardson $2,513,500
    Quinten Couples $2,200,699
    Calvin Pryor $2,140,813
    Mo Wilk $1,717,750
    Geno Smith $1,294,901
    Jace Amaro $1,073,248
    Demario Davis $704,490
    Jeremy Kerley $556,063
    Snacks $482,333


    $15,840,000

    The first thing that jumps out is how quickly Idzik has built a really talented, young group of players (through the draft with some help from Tanny) . If Idzik can keep this up we'll always have a talented pool of underpaid players.

    Second, which supports the above, is how little some of these key guys are getting paid. Kerley, Snacks, even Demario. Wow. good job Idzik.

    Third and final, 2 yrs ago when Revis was our best player and holding out for $15-$18M/yr we can now see just how many other really good players a team can get for the same dollars. The impact those 10 players had last year and will have this year and next year far exceeds anything Revis could had provide playing with the old team

    Here's a link to the page that gives every Jet player's Total Contract, Avg/Yr, Guaranteed Amount, and Season the contract ends:

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/
     
  4. TNJet

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    What is absurd is Philly paying Suckchez $3million. That is insane.
     
  5. themorey

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    Even worse is the Jets are paying him $4.8m this year.
     
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  6. Jets69

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    Sprewell was a dirtbag!
     
  7. JStokes

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    Actually, you've missed the point. The NFL, with it's salary structure, is not about what you are theoretically "worth" it's about what you can command.

    Don't confuse it with your job or mine or Joe Blows job.

    Kerley entered a workforce that has a system of compensation, negotiated and agreed to by his union.

    Kerley may have outperformed his contract 6 times, but until he has the ability to become a free agent (or the balls to hold out and eschew half a million bucks in the hopes he doesn't get run over by a bus), he plays for what the team deems fair--whether you as a fan thinks so or not.

    When he has the hammer of free agency, that's when he gets what he is "worth", but not really, he'll get what he can command.

    Paying everyone what you think theoretically they are "worth" while still under contract is just really really bad business given the compensation structure agreed to between the owners and the players.

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  8. themorey

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    Great post. I'll add that the union would never agree to paying a player based on worth within contract because of the flip side argument, i.e. someone gets a huge contract and underperforms.
     
  9. Greenday4537

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    LOL What? How are you going to give Idzik credit for those contracts? Idzik wasn't here when Kerley was drafted and signed. Neither was Davis. Actually, none of them were signed by Idzik. They were all drafted or signed as a FA before Idzik was here.
     
  10. Footballgod214

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    well....when you put it THAT way
     
  11. Br4d

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    Kerley has outperformed his rookie deal by a fair amount at this point. His next deal however depends on how he does this season. If he has a good season and manages to stay on the field the Jets may well reward him with a good deal to stay. On the other hand if he has a year that is not topnotch and/or he is hurt and can't stay on the field reliably he'll probably have to go else where to get his deal.

    He's a good player and I like what he does for the Jets but he's also a slot receiver and the Jets have a lot of people who will be vying for those snaps. They may not be able to afford to keep both Kerley and Cumberland if Amaro turns into a good slot guy.

    The Pats let Wes Welker go because they were paying the TE a lot and Welker for all his skills and production was a slot receiver. That's often the choice you have to make.
     
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    Three years ago the new CBA went into effect, drastically shifting the balance of power to the GMs. Idzik seems to be using the new dynamics in his favor, which is good. But it is something to keep in mind during the beatification process.
     
  13. JStokes

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    As much as I like Kerley, if he gets nicked up this year and Saunders shows he's got some ability, they're not going to pay Kerley big bucks. He'll have to have a very productive year and even still he still might not get it.

    I'm hoping for a big year out of Kerley, but he's a little guy and he could be replaceable if he's looking for a big payday.

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    Given the fact that they're letting Wilkerson play his rookie contract out I find it hard to believe they'll treat Kerley any differently. I hope we do re-sign him btw.
     
  15. Jets Esq.

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    $3m is not too high for a backup QB with 4 years of recent starting experience. There aren't many backups with that much experience, and that's what it's about.
     
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    I like Kerley, he's played well for us, but we were a team with no offense to speak of. His role will be different and probably a lot less important going forward.
     
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    Young, talented and cheap? Exactly what I'm looking for in a hooker.

    Mo Wilks current contract is a travesty. He deserves to be paid, I just hope our failure to pay him what he's worth doesn't make him leave next off season. Kerley should be making more as well but he's going to be surrounded with young talent this year. Hopefully he doesn't get lost in the mix!
     
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  18. TNJet

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    Oh come on, be real. We are talking about the Buttfumbler. The big apple turnover. The booger picker. The ass bearer. Rex's boy. The FO should be ashamed that they kept him as long as they did. He doesn't deserve $3.00 much less $3 mil. He is not a backup, he is a punchline.
     
  19. Jets Esq.

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    He was the Jets' starter for too long, but he still has plenty of value as a backup. I'm not a Sanchez defender by any means, but I am a realist- he has lots of game experience and that's a rare commodity among backups. That has value.

    Next year, when teams are looking to copy the Eagles' offense- I think Mark will get to compete for a starting job on another team because he will have familiarity with the Chip Kelly offense. Someone will promote the QB coach to be their OC, and take Mark- or they'll make whoever Kelly's OC is their HC and they may have interest in Mark.

    Do I think he's a good QB? No. But he has value, and after a year with Philly someone will want him to compete for a starting job.

    Whether he'll win the competition and actually be good- no, I don't think that will happen, but I think he's right in the mix as one of those failed starting QBs who will get the chance to make a second run with another team.
     
  20. TNJet

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    Valid points, but who do you think will actually be willing to give him a shot as the starter. Also, what would Freeman have been like had we drafted him instead of Mark? I believe they are two sides of the same coin.
     

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