2014 NBA Off-Season Thread

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  1. soxxx

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    Wasnt intending to be.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I doubt the Cavs even make it to the finals next season. "Near locks"?? Come on.
     
  3. soxxx

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    Its the betting though, people are going to overwhelmingly throw down money for the Cavs.

    I'd give the Cavs a 60% chance to win the East right now, so odds are they will IMO.
     
  4. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    JS....I have to disagree with you. Without going into details about gambling...ok...lets say the Jets...because of every team in the AFC lose their starting qb to an injury become somehow the best team in the AFC. It does not work the way you guys are describing that the Jets would be close to the same odds as let say the Seahawks.

    that's why they have different odds for a team to win and make it to the superbowl..and to win the superbowl. The Cavs could be 2 to 1 or 8 to 5 to make it to the Superbowl...but if there are 3 or 4 teams from the NFC that are better and would beat those teams...the odds to get to the superbowl and win it are drastically different.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yep, that's the only reason for the odds coming out less than 15 minutes after Lebron made his decision. Vegas wants to cash in on compulsive stupidity.
     
  6. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    The Cavs will or won't have one totally unproven guy in Wiggins. Then they'll have two stars, in Kyrie & Love, who have no Playoff experience.

    Will they be one of the top teams in the East? Probably. But a lock for the Finals? I don't see it.
     
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    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    and to even add to how the odds are different...and play to peoples emotions even more then whats on paper, the Bulls are 7 to 1 to win the EDIT: CHAMPIONSHIP

    Now..the big question would be...and that's why its all about emotion now...the Cavs have a better shot then the Spurs to win the EDIT: C HAMPIONSHIP LOL.

    You can have 4 or 5 teams with better chances to with the superbowl then the second best team in the AFC. It doesn't work that way.
     
  8. BigSnacks54

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    The Spurs will sweep the Cavs, congrats on the sixth title.
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Meh, we don't even know what the rest of the FAs are doing yet. Melo could end up in Chicago with a possibly (?) healthy D Rose, I don't see the Cavs beating a team like that. Hell, even without Rose, the Bulls always gave Lebron and the Heat fits.
     
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    That offer for Love is not good enough.

    They need to trade Wiggins and a 1st
     
  11. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    That's it..and it will slip down as time goes by. Soxx is wrong. You can have 3 of the top 4 teams be from one conference to win a championship. There are odds to get there..and there are odds to win it. If one conference is very very weak, they do not make the light conference same odds or better to win it. It has never worked that way.
     
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    The scary thing is this in regards to Love. Its like the whole carmelo thing, if Love ONLY wants to go to the Cavs, he will get there. Twolves will wait to the deadline and if they dont get a better offer from another team, they WILL take the Cavs offer because Love is going to leave in less than a year. No team is going to trade for Love either if he isnt going to commit (especially not a successful team like Golden State, the Nets once traded for Williams which was a risk but they had a year and half and thought they could convince him to stay).

    So at the end of the day it is 100% realistic that the Cavaliers get Love without losing Wiggins. 3 1st round draft picks/Waiters/Bennett (whatever combo) is probably enough to get Love because if not, the Twolves might not get anything. Love also will push for a trade because he gets more money because he would be resigning with the Cavs, rather signing as a free agent.
     
  13. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    Oh bullshit...you turn discussions into right and wrong and you are wrong so much you sound like a complete fool
     
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    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    When a team like the cavs have Lebron now and have 3 future 1st rounders....if they want Love..they got him.
     
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    I am not wrong, read Stokes post. The Cavaliers arent the best team but they are the odds on favorite to win the finals because they can get through the East and actually be in the finals. The Spurs, Thunder, Rockets, Blazers, Clippers are all no lock to get to the finals, if they were, they would obviously be the favorite.
     
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    Your a fool dude, you cant do math, thats why the concept is beyond you. Im sure you are a smarter than Vegas, im sure.
     
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    I meant that as an example. Statistically speaking as to why they'd be favorites to win it all over clearly better teams out west.

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    oh please..you are going to hide behind another posters posts. Don't throw me all the teams in the Western conference.

    The bottom line is..and you are too naïve to believe it..shocker..is that right now..the Cavs are 3 to 1 and the Spurs are 4 to 1. You really believe its because they have a tougher road? They are the better team? The Spurs have a tougher conference? That's being naïve. Its all about emotion right now and if the Cavs make no more moves..the SMART betting public will make that correction after all the morons make their emotion bets on the Cavs.

    The Cavs have a better chance of winning the title then the Spurs according to Vegas...TODAY.

    If you are going to bet the Giants in a football game...will you get better odds with your bookie in East Rutherford NJ..or you bookie in Dallas TX. Those odds are nonsense today....but Vegas knows exactly what they are doing.
     
  20. JStokes

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    It's actually not like that.

    Let's say you have 4 teams out west who have an equal shot to get to the finals. That's a 25% chance each.

    That means by converse they each individually have a 75% chance of NOT making it.

    If the Cavs, for example, have a 100% chance of making it to the finals (which they don't, but for illustrative purposes they do), the Cavs trump three of those teams 100% of the time because they won't be in the finals.

    When one of those teams MAKES finals, then that team will become the favorite to beat the Cavs, but the other 3 teams have a zero percent chance of beating the Cavs because they will not be playing, so the permutations strictly from a statistical standpoint favor the Cavs over all 4 western teams, but not any one if them individually.

    But the bet NOW is over all 4 of those teams collectively so the Cavs are favored.

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