I don't think this is a big deal at all for Geno at this stage. A lot of those QBs have been in the league for 5+ years. Not a huge fan of Dalton, Palmer (hasn't been the same since the Steelers playoff game, he's been an INT machine with no upside ever since), and Schaub. I would really have to think about this decision due to Geno's upside. Eli and Flacco, easily I would take over Geno.
Hyperbole. Folks here are making it seem like those last 4 games were some sort of turning point for him. That he was better than the awful he was previously is obvious--but he was only marginal at best during that stretch. _
I'm shocked at this response. I was expecting a well thought out, reasonable response from you. I also expect the government to tell the truth.
Bullshit. Dalton is as inconsistent as they come, and have you seen him perform in a playoff game? A homer would say that they would prefer Geno over all of the QBs. Palmer threw 22 interceptions last season. Geno threw 21. Notice their age difference, I think I would take a chance with the guy that has upside then Palmer who is an interception machine w/ no upside. My reasoning is valid, Mr. I want Greg Roman as my head coach
I don't even know who you are. Definitely could care less what you think. I think all 5 of those guys aren't very good and I know it. Geno I am not sure of yet.
If you think Andy Dalton is as inconsistent as they come what is Geno Smith? He's consistently worse than Andy Dalton - I'll give you that.
I feel like it's not fair to rate Geno's performance last year with the other NFL QBs. Everyone knew it was a rebuilding a year for the jets. There were no hopes of a Championship. They made the decision that the best move, in the long run, was to let Geno get a full year of experience instead of wasting time and money on a stop gap QB. Honestly, I view last season as a trail run for our younger players. But, everything changes this year. Geno is being handed the keys to a revamped offense and has a full year of REAL NFL experience under his belt. He will and should be expected to perform at the same level as some of these top tier QBs listed above.
it's a good thing to show improvement though, right? w/ all he had been through getting beaten down to show anything is a huge positive. I have no idea how good he will be but I fell much better about him after that stretch than I would have had he just tanked it. we need to remember there's no way geno should have been playing last year. he wasn't ready to play in the NFL and we had a terrible offense around him. he was only playing b/c our starter got hurt and he looked like a guy not ready to play at this level for the majority of the first 12 games.
Dalton has top 5 weapons and can't do anything in big games. good fantasy #s during the reg season mean nothing to me. I think he can develop into very good QB and I'd take him over Geno but Dalton has issues too. let's not pretend Dalton is great.
Andy Dalton consistently looks terrible in the playoffs. All I need to see. I will say on my original list I included Mark Sanchez and Michael Vick as QB's I would take over Geno, but removed them as they are not likely starters.
Right now I would pick Dalton over Geno, but not if Geno plays a whole season for the Jets. Dalton's has a lot of problems with holding onto the ball too much. Geno's problem is interceptions and hitting his receivers. Dalton for current value, Geno for career value.
We will see whether last year was an aberration for Schaub, or he's lost it, but on a stat basis, all three of those guys are much better than Smith. I understand Palmer's age and that he does not have many years left makes him something of an apples and oranges comparitor to younger players. But it is far from clear that as of right now Smith is likely to last longer in the league than Palmer.
Safe to say the supporting offensive cast has to get much better for Geno to have any chance at improving. Still...in the three wins of the final four games his QBR was over 80. He only managed that once before in the week 3 win vs. Buffalo...the only game he threw for over 300 yds.
I hate to say this, but the offense hasn't improved enough. I still think we are a receiver or two away from having a good offense.
Wow, I call misleading stat comparison. Smith's int RATE was far worse - 4.7 v. 3.8, and of course that was Palmer's worst stat. He also had a 83.3 Qb rating compared to Smith's woeful 66.5 rating. The main reason Palmer had more int's was because he threw the ball many more times - 572 v. 443. Did you not know this, or did you really think that single stat makes Smith the better Qb?
Decker and Johnson are improvements, and Amaro likely will be at some point, but both OG positions remain a concern. Still, I think Smith's defenders make far too much of the alleged lack of talent on O last year. The Jets ran the ball very well despite having a weak passing threat. The OL was essentially average, not below average. Yes there were issues at wideout, and don't count me as a big Cumberland fan. But the O was not as far off last year as Smith's defenders make it sound.
Right now Andy is better, but that's why I said I would be willing to gamble on Geno Smith. Dalton under-performs with AJ Green, 2 decent TEs and Gio Bernard. So far Geno has under-performed with Stephen Hill, Jeff Cumberland and Jeremy Kerley.
