Interesting Words From Our Old Friend : Mike Pettine

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  1. Barcs

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    LOL. Yeah, he's just some doofus. Keep posting bullshit and libel (SORRY NOT SLANDER FOR THE LAWYERS LOL) with no evidence behind it whatsoever.
     
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    Oh wow, TWICE! In 3 years!! He brags all the time!

    Right. Twice in 3 years is totally constant!

    OMG Sherman must be garbage! I mean why does he need to proclaim himself the best CB in the league if he actually is right? 1+1 = 3?
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Luke Skywalker has a green lightsaber.
     
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    If BB is a defensive genius, how come NE didn't have defense worth shit since something like 2007?
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    CJ, my instinct as a Jets fan is to trash you for this, but I know that you're even keeled for the most part so I'll just say this: every man and woman on this earth has a complex of insecurity.

    It manifests itself differently with different types of personalities.

    Rex being all bluster and blowhard could be a manifestation of insecurity, speaking about how he believes in his abilities as a defensive coordinator, but he speaks just as passionately about his coaches and players, and far more frequently. Are you making to say that he also doesn't believe in the strength of any other aspect of his professional life?

    And you are apparently using Bill Belichick as the standard for emotional security, as if disdain and apathy for all things not team oriented is what every coach should strive for.

    I'm sure you will cite other coaches that you believe are secure, that don't act like BB, but you won't honestly cite them as the standard.

    Bill Belichick comes off to many of us as insecure, the hermit way he hides every single aspect of his team from the public, as if giving away any morsel of information will somehow be his undoing.

    I know that this isn't the essence of truth, but that is a pretty distinct sign of the presence of insecurity, however prominent it may be.

    So, put your stones down, close your glass curtains and lay your sweet head down on your translucent pillow, because you are not doing any shocking psychoanalysis from afar.
     
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    There have been a lot of "what if" conversations about Brady and Belichick over the years. But trying to determine who made who is a pretty useless exercise.

    It's the same as it's always been... it's not at all uncommon for HOF coaches to be linked to HOF quarterbacks. The coach and player are, in every way, dependent upon the other for success. Trying to determine who is more responsible for that success is in most cases impossible.

    Would Bill Walsh have won without Montana? Would Belichick have failed in NE without Brady? If Brady was drafted by a different team (but one that also had an established QB) would he have ever seen the field?

    There isn't a single coach in the HOF who didn't have great players. But most of the greatest players also had great coaches.

    Rex knows his defense, there's no doubt about that. I don't think his preference for that side of the ball has anything to do with the Jets' offense these past few years though. More just a lack of talent, especially at the QB spot. Whatever legacy he leaves behind in NY is still a work in progress.
     
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    Walsh would have had much more success - that is, even without Montana - than Belichick would ever have had without Brady. If you didn't realize yet, Walsh already made a good QB out of a weak-armed prospect named Virgil Carter. On top of that, incorporating the aspect of risk-management in the passing game was unheard of during the 80's - so whoever Walsh did that with, he would have been the very first QB to do that.
     
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    LOL - Rex haters out in full flight today. All talk, no reasoning.
     
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    In terms of that bolded part......i've always felt if Brady was drafted by say Oakland, he wouldn't have amounted to anything.
    He's Belichick's frankenstein. perfect situation and perfect coach for him, and he thrived within that environment.

    of course Belichick also needed him, as you pointed out. You cannot have that type of sustained success without top QB play. He also would not have been able to rebuild the team while still reaching the playoffs every year without that QB.
    So i agree they needed each other.
    But i do think Belichick would have been successful regardless, and my opinion, i don't think Brady would have been (short of another great situation).
     
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    lol, some of the Jet fan Rex haters, i've come to realize, are just idiots.
    rarely any substance..
     
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    I think Walsh would have found his QB to run the West Coast the way he wanted it run. Not a knock on Montana, but as you pointed out at the time it was a pretty innovative, bold strategy to open up the short passing game like that.

    This ties in well with the Walsh comment.

    It wouldn't have been easy for Belichick to bench Bledsoe in 2001. Bledsoe had been the face of the franchise through the Parcells and Carroll regimes, and had just received a huge extension (record money at the time, I believe). But he was everything in a QB that Belichick seems to not want. Slow feet, long throwing motion, didn't get rid of the ball on time a lot, and would often believe in his arm a little too much and throw into coverage. He was the team's star though, the #1 overall pick in '93, and a favorite of the Krafts.

    I've read/heard that Brady had progressed so far from 2000 to 2001 that the coaching staff had serious thoughts about Bledsoe's status as the starter. I don't know if it's true or not, but obviously that became a moot point thanks to Mo Lewis. (Who is probably my favorite all-time Jet as a result!) ;)
     
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    But the red saber has always looked the coolest.
     
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    The day The Phantom Menace was officially opened at Grauman's Chinese Theater in LA, there were droves of Star Wars geeks in full regalia lined up to get in. A group of guys who saw the movie at the midnight premier the night before drove by that line of drooling geeks and yelled "DARTH MAUL GETS CHOPPED IN HALF" right when the theater began admitting people.

    That's the best part of Star Wars episode 1. Not the Darth Maul scene, those guys in that truck.
     
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    I don't remember which episode it was, but Triumph the insult comic had a field day on Conan O'Brien with a bunch going into the NY premiere...
     
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    You don't know what level of success I've reached in my life and career. I stand by my statement. I think he's a doofus.
     
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    Ok then smart guy how far? Rex is far more intelligent than you are giving him credit for. He's loud and in your face for sure but that doesnt make him any less clever.
     
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    You son of a bitch! Where's the spoiler alert? I was planning on watching that in 10 years.

    Call me crazy, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Rex's pinky finger has had more success in life than you, considering he's rich and famous and you are likely not. If not you'd be spreading your irrational hate through twitter to your millions of followers rather than an NYJ message board that nobody who matters even follows.
     
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