show me when he came close? he never won another playoff game. every team can play the what if card on calls. If they call the sanchez pass incomplete rather than ruling it a fumble at Pitt we may have won that game. If they rule the Gastineau forced fumble in the '82 title game at Miami maybe we win that game? come back at me w/ less what ifs and more reality.
I cannot speak for everyone, but I don't call people trolls for disagreeing with me. I call people trolls when they make statements out of ignorance, don't back them up, fail to respond to questions and insult other people. You have been guilty in this thread of everything in the prior sentence. Time to step up and out of Trollville. Or not. Maybe it is cool there.
Swann is one of the weakest Hall members along with Millner, Wojciechowicz, Emmitt Thomas, Floyd Little, and Paul Hornung. Swann's career totals look weak but he only played nine years. To give you an idea of the passing environment of his era, his best year was arguably 1977 (first team consensus All-Pro). That year nobody gained 1000 yards via receptions. Former Raiders players liked to say Swann was soft. Film doesn't support this. Swann went over the middle more often than Branch. Branch was great outside the numbers and I can support his candidacy. It can be argued that Drew Pearson and Harold Jackson were better than Branch and Swann. Look at Jackson's stats: 579 catches, 10372 yards, 17.9 average, 76 TDs- statistically eye-popping for that era. Jackson's greatest game came in the '73 campaign went he torched Dallas for 238 yards and four TDs. That performance eventually got Charlie Waters switched from cornerback to free safety. Another Branch type was Mel Gray. Gray was a 5-9 burner who I think ran a 9.2 (40 times were not the thing). He had 351 catches for 6644 yards and 45 TDs. I believe 22 went for 48 yards or more. Some of these were off bombs, but I have seen film of Gray taking a quick hitter and blowing by defenders for a big gainer.
Again, Namath is not the only HOF Qb with more interceptions than touchdowns. Namath played in an era when interceptions were more common than touchdown passes. You are obviously approaching this with 2014 football on your mind. You need to break from that mindset and do some research. Did you know that during Namath's era a wide receiver was once a consensus 1st team all-pro while catching only 29 passes?
not the only one but I am not sure anyone has a worse ratio. HOF QBs that played in 60s and 70s: Fran Tarkenton +76 Sonny Jurgensen +66 Len Dawson +56 Roger Staubach +44 John Unitas +37 Bob Griese +20 Bart Starr +14 Terry Bradshaw +2 George Blanda -41(but he didn't make it just as a QB) Joe Namath -47 Only 2 HOFers had negative TD to INT ratio and the other one wasn't inducted solely as a QB
Really? Really?!!!? I posted their names already in this very thread. Forget research at a library or even the internet (with all its errors; yes, even pro-football-reference is error-filled), you first need to research THIS thread.
I was game for it for a little while. I see Geno is a colossal troll/mental midget. I won't deal directly with him anymore. He cannot back up what drivel he writes, he cannot answer simple questions, he cannot read, etc.
Two in whatever era you are discussing here. Tittle played during Blanda's era and had more INTs than TDs. The other QBs with negative TD to INT ratios were already posted in this thread. Falco now thinks Blanda and Namath were the only two based on your post. It looks like he chose to ignore my posts on the subject.
Tittle started playing in the 40s, ended in early 60s before joe ever took a snap. I posted the guys from his era. of the ones that played in his era hew as one of two to throw more INts than Tds and make the HOF and again the other one didn't make it primarily as a QB.
Actual fact: in every season of Namath's career there were more interceptions than touchdown passes. Namath was not pathetic in this department like Geno007 and nyjunc have guys like Falco thinking. Rather, what is actually the case is that guys like Tarkenton and Dawson and Starr were tremendous in this aspect of quarterback play.
Actual fact: of the HOF QBs of his era the only primary QB to throw more INTs than TDs for his career was Joe Namath and he was MINUS 47.
Nowhere did I hint that Tittle played during any year Namath played which is actually the same era, but that is beside the point. (Edit: awkwardly written paragraph by me here and I don't care.) While on the subject, there is no major difference in rules and schematics from 1955 pro football to 1971 pro football, but there is a MAJOR difference between 1971 pro football and 1978 pro football.
you brought up his era, I posted peers in his era and he's the only primary QB that made the Hall that has more INTs than TDs and it's not like he was -5 or -10. he was MINUS FORTY SEVEN. He's in the Hall b/c of what he meant to the game not b/c of his production on the field.
