Tajh Boyd vs Matt Simms

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Who will win the 3rd string QB job?

  1. Tajh Boyd

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    69.6%
  2. Matt Simms

    11 vote(s)
    19.6%
  3. Unsure

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    10.7%
  1. TonyMaC

    TonyMaC Well-Known Member

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    the OTHER Quarterback competition.

    Tajh Boyd was once considered a higher round draft pick, but his stock plummeted with time, perhaps because he was considered a product of his offense. With a good amount of speed and no hesitation to run he's a mobile QB to the core. as a passer he's got a nice quick release and a good arm (though inferior to that of Simms). he's raw as hell though, probably more so than Smith was last year. his learning curve is due to be steep as he adjusts to the speed and more complex defenses of the NFL and an entirely new kind of offense. But he has the potential to be a starter one day on intangibles and physical traits alone, its just a matter of adjusting to all the pros has to throw at the college star, though thats easier said than done.

    unlike Boyd, Matt Simms has played some downs in the NFL, he's seemed competent enough out there to warrant keeping him, but one has to wonder how high his potential really is. like I said earlier he has a great arm, and it seems as though he grasps the offense well enough to fairly step in for Smith or Vick if it came to it. but he's nothing great either,one thing that stood out is that he sometimes stares down receivers to the point where it looked like defenders were able to anticipate a throw and make a play for it. he may not have much more to give than simply being a hold the fort kind of player.

    Boyd has better upside, he COULD be a starter one day while Simms isn't likely to progress much further than a game managing backup role. but I'm not certain Boyd's play in training camp will warrant giving him a roster spot over Simms who should be the better overall QB on merit… at first. Its actually a bit difficult to tell what the terms if victory are but Boyd's best chance at making the team will be based on wether or not the third QB spot is given on potential rather than immediate impact. I'd imagine Simms would win THAT battle, in that I'd trust him to start in the offense he should know better than the rookie.

    thoughts?
     
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    OverloadBlitz Well-Known Member

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    I like Simms but Boyd has leadership qualities and a little more mobility. If he has the IQ to get the playbook down he will most likely beat out Simms for that 3rd spot. I think Boyd can develop into a starter at some point that can either replace Geno if he performs poorly or be traded for a draft pick. Boyd doesn't have a great arm and is short so he has a lot going against him, either way its a sleeper competition to watch and very important since Vick has not proved that he can stay healthy for a season.
     
  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I guess it depends on the camp competition, but if you listen to that interview with Marty, he pretty much stated that Simms was 3QB. Boyd is better served on the PS.
     
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  4. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    Long term I think Boyd could develop into a better QB than Simms. But if we're talking about this year. Then Simms is the most likely candidate to be the 3rd QB. I could see Boyd being stashed away on the practice squad for a year.
     
  5. pclfan

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    Simms was no. 2 last season but when Geno struggled they didn't even consider benching him and starting Matt. He never really got a chance although he played a few downs. Now he's been demoted to either no. 3 or off the team. Not sure if he's eligible for the practice squad. But my guess he has more value around the league than Boyd and if released would be picked up quickly by another team. And Boyd if cut won't be picked up unless he looks great in exhibition games. So Tajh probably will stick around but on the PS and not go on the active roster unless there's injuries.
     
  6. Turbocharged23

    Turbocharged23 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know. Simms is having a pretty bad camp from what I've read (vs last year when Rex raved about him). If Simms doesn't come significantly ahead of Boyd, they are going to roll the dice with the guy with the higher ceiling
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I haven't heard much about the competition between Boyd and Simms, where did you read that?
     
  8. The Uniform Bomber

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    Boyd's got the potential, especially if there's an 'it' quality present, which I'm not sure he has, but there's a possibility.

    Simms is probably more ready and we all love that rocket arm.

    If we can somehow keep both, then that'd be ideal. Someone (maybe it was Byz) mentioned relegating Boyd to the Practice Squad; that could be a good idea, although, I wonder if another team will scoop him from there.

    If I had a gun to my head and was forced to pick one of them going forward, then I'd choose Boyd, but it would be tough to let Matty go.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Eh, the "it" factor. Isn't that part of why we traded up for Sanchez?

    As far as Simms v. Boyd, I'd obviously pick Simms, but you don't know what the OC is really looking for in an emergency QB. Impossible to tell who they'd pick if both were playing equal.
     
  10. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    There's a difference between trading up for a Qb (you better be sure he's got the "it" factor that the top-tier franchise Qbs have) and taking one late in the draft, and then, waiting to see if he's got that intangible quality that the 1st Rounders usually have.

    My point is, we can afford to wait on Boyd because if you strike gold on a Qb, it can change your franchise, in more ways than one. For example, if Geno pans out and Boyd is Starting material, then a trade would net an earlyish Draft pick.

    Chances are, Boyd won't amount to anything significant. But who knows? And what are the chances that the Jets will have to resort to the 3rd string Qb this year? If that happens, then we're probably fucked anyway. So, I guess I'd rather just hang on to Boyd to see what he's got.

    Regarding Simms v Boyd: I like Simms a lot, and tomorrow, I'll probably say the Jets should keep him over Boyd. But, right now, I say Boyd because of all the aforementioned stuff.
     
  11. JStokes

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    Tajh Boyd has Russell Wilson-type leadership qualities, a better and more accurate arm with a quicker release than Geno and is a more beastly runner than Mike Vick.

    Boyd will be number 3 coming out of camp and will start at least one game this year.

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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Rex Ryan admitted that Boyd was his annual pick. The only other time he did that (Hard Knocks season) was The Terminator. I'm not sold that the rest of the staff feels the same way as the head coach who chose the QB of his son's school.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Care to elaborate on "more beastly"?
     
  14. The 1985er

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    I haven't heard about Simms having a bad camp. I think Simms has the advantage because he is more experienced and knows the system. Right now Boyd is raw and needs time to develop. If things work out with Geno I can see Boyd and Simms battling for the backup spot in '15.
     
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    I doubt the Jets would want to waste a draft pick that quick. Expect Boyd to be #3.
     
  16. irishwhip03

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    Boyd will get it based on potential alone.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Boyd was the 11th of 12 draft picks. He is not all that valuable.
     
  18. The Uniform Bomber

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    He really isn't that valuable when you put it in that perspective, along with him being Rex's annual pick.

    I just think that, at this point, if it's pretty much set as Geno and Vick, then try to find something of value in Boyd for later on down the road.

    But, yeah, in reality, he's not all that valuable at the moment, and cutting him from the final roster (or designating him to the PS) for the more experienced Simms wouldn't be a bad move.
     
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    This cookie needs cream in the middle.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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