NY Rangers 2011-2016 Season + Offseason Thread

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  1. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I forget but Sather likes him
     
  2. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Ryan Kessler is the guy you want, that man is a beast, tough as nails, goes into the dirty areas, corners, front of the net and is a very good 2 way player.

    I would stay away from Shawn Thornton at this point, the bruins would have kept him if they felt he could still contribute.
     
  3. Sanchize0829

    Sanchize0829 Well-Known Member

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    Kesler to the Rangers is not happening as long as AV is the coach. To put it nicely, they don't see eye to eye.
     
  4. Red Menace

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    Are you familiar with what happened?

    I don't know enough if the story.

    Maybe a second chance is in order?

    I have noticed that you give players a chance to get back to the Stanley Cup Finals and the are very forgiving

    I think it was more the Twins who failed them not Kessler.

    The Twins were knocked around pretty good during their playoff appearances.
     
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  5. AMJets

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    Shawn Thornton is one of the worst players in the NHL.

    It would be yet another lazy Sather move, so it wouldn't surprise me.
     
  6. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    The Rangers are like the Yankees of the 80s. Overpay for everybody else's aging stars without developing enough of your own young talent while your roster becomes a revolving door. Jagr, Gomez, Drury, Redden, Gaborik, Richards, St. Louis .......Now Joe Thornton? Good luck with this strategy.
     
  7. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I would take him over Dorsett anyday of the week
     
  8. AMJets

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    At least Dorsett can skate.
     
  9. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I respect your opinion but Thornton is the better player, if only Dorsett was a little bigger and a little more skilled
     
  10. Dirty6Sanchez

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    Ryan Lambert on Thornton. No thanks.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...er-role--trending-topics-extra-192151497.html


    Just as in many other sports cities, fighters are revered in Boston. Hell, they retired Terry O'Reilly's number. They're like backup goalies, backup quarterbacks, backup catchers and backup small forwards: Guys you don't see play often enough to realize how bad they are.

    Consequently, Monday was a period of great mourning for Bruins fans. Drippy eulogies for his seven years in Black and Gold were surely being pecked out between uncontrollable sobs. The reason Thornton isn't being asked back, apart from the eight points and less than nine minutes a night for $1.1 million per season, is that the Bruins are “going in a different direction.”

    And that in itself is something.

    The Bruins, the Big Bad Bruins, no longer have need of Shawn Thornton. Nor, in fact, do they seem to have need of players like Thornton.

    The general consensus in the wake of the baffling series loss to Montreal was that the lack of depth killed their chances (that and the baker's dozen posts they hit, but that's neither here nor there). The Bruins' fourth line, affectionately dubbed the Merlot Line because of the color of their practice jerseys and not the fact that their decision-making and belligerence when on the ice often resembled that of three drunkards, was typically drowning despite very favorable conditions being given to them by coach Claude Julien.

    That was not uncommon, either. When they were on the ice the last few years, the Bruins' possession numbers resembled that of the Edmonton Oilers, and cannot have been viewed as acceptable.

    That, ultimately, looks to be what swayed the Bruins' decision here. Thornton — and Merlot-horts Gregory Campbell and Daniel Paille — were underwater nearly every time they were on the ice. They are flat-out not good at doing the thing Boston does better than almost any other team in the league: get the puck into the attacking zone. In fact, in terms of corsi relative to their teams' overall performance, Paille, Thornton and Campbell rank 16th, 14th, and fourth from the bottom of the league among forwards who got into at least 41 games out of 375 such players.

    To put that into perspective, there are 360 available forward positions in the league at any one time, so literally almost anyone who got into at least half their teams' games this season were better at driving the puck forward than this terrible trio. Paille and Campbell still have a year each left on their contracts, and given the Bruins' cap crunch, they might be in line for compliance buyouts.

    It wouldn't be the worst idea in the world to ship the triumvirate wholesale; the Bruins' new direction dictates that they want to use actual hockey players in those fourth-line roles, and they have a number of guys in the minors who might fit the bill. Statistically, they almost couldn't do worse.
     
  11. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Thornton > Dorsett, their 4th line wasn't underwater when it smacked us in the mouth twice in the playoffs
     
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    Lol those two teams trading again. I think Jeff Carter was traded there

    Umberger is going back to place that brought his the concussion memories.
     
  14. matt robinson 17

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    Hartnell > Umberger
     
  15. AMJets

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    What makes Thornton a better hockey player than Dorsett? The only thing he does better than Dorsett is beat people up. And he's going to be 37 years old. He's the new Donald Brashear.
     
  16. Sanchize0829

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    It wasn't that much. AV took a few subtle shots at Kesler's play, and the media ran to Kesler and distorted what AV said, which made Kesler say that AV needs to speak to him about any problems instead of the media.

    I guess that caused them to dislike each other. It was said during the season that Kesler wouldn't accept a trade to the Rangers because AV was the coach.
     
  17. Red Menace

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    And the truth is that they have the players in the minor leagues, I have seen them play against the bridgeport sound tigers and there are players that are a force to be reckoned with.

    Even my wife who likes to go for the pretzels and the music and is not very knowledgable about hockey, was taken aback when she saw them on the ice pummeling the sound tigers with an aggressive forechecking style.

    They have a good future and they are doing the right thing by giving these young players a chance.
     
  18. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Thornton is bigger, stronger, has a better offensive side, I like Dorsett but he's small weak and offensively retarded, but he's fast which I like
     
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  19. AMJets

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    Well, if you really think Thornton is better offensively than Dorsett, then I guess there's really nothing that can be said to change your mind.

    I'll just say since Boyle will need to be replaced, I hope Sather realizes that the 4th line worked this year because we had players that can skate and control the puck like Moore and Dorsett (and even Carcillo) and stopped going after goons who can't move like Brashear, Rupp, and Shawn Thornton. Luckily, AV is much smarter in this regard than our previous coach who thought every shift was a dick measuring contest, and knows he needs actual hockey players on the team.
     
  20. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I think Boyle will stay and Moore-Boyle-Thornton would be the best 4th line in the league, I don't know where you got this idea he's just a goon Thornton, the guy scores big goals, did you watch him in the playoffs against us, wtf does Dorsett do offensively besides skate fast and fall down
     

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