New York Jets 2014 OTA Official Thread

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I don't think anyone is saying he's making a mistake calling them out. Players who stay in shape with sprints and change of direction drills on their own time tend not to continuously have hammy issues. It's a good way to avoid it, and when a coach sees a guy injure his hamstring twice in a year, I think he has a right to criticize what physical shape they are keeping themselves in.

    And yeah, he did call Kerley out in 2012:
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...ryan-new-york-jets-jeremy-kerley-must-step-up
     
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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Don't remember that Kerley incident at all. It worked though. Kerley has been playing very well when he's actually at 100%.

    And my point on Milliner is, don't hamstring issues linger?
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    They linger when you don't have an entire offseason to rest and rehab and work it out. When a player pulls a hammy during the season, it tends to keep popping up unless the team handles it properly by giving him extended periods where he doesn't burst run and re-aggravate it - we saw that with the way they handled Milliner's and also Ivory's hammy issues, they handled it great.

    But an entire NFL offseason (which is the longest offseason of any of the major sports) is plenty enough time to rest it and then start working out to strengthen it. I think Rex's point is that Milliner fell prey to the hammy gremlins and should have been working his ass off on his own this winter and spring to make sure that didn't happen again. And it did.

    The good news is that actual TC doesn't start until a couple of months from now.
     
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    5 surgeries in college. Constantly playing with ailments. This is typical Milliner.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Meh, for as scary as his injury history in college was, I was expecting far more than a hamstring injury and a few games missed. I was pleasantly surprised when he came back so soon from the hamstring and started improving his play without popping it again.
     
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    I'm not optimistic that this will be his last ailment.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Me neither, but he is with an NFL S&C program now. His NFL career probably won't be very long, but the Jets don't need him to play for 15 years, either. Probably just 6.
     
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  8. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    I was at OTA's today. Geno looked solid for most of the day, but indecisive and held on to ball too long a few times. Vick still has great velocity on his balls, got a big arm. He also looked quick running out of the pocket. Jace dropped two passes. Both first down balls. He still looked very good out there in terms of getting in and out of his cuts very quick. Sudfeld is a big long target who moves well. Could be another TE weapon. Saunders looked quick and shifty on his kickoff returns.
     
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    Brian Costello ‏@BrianCoz 32s
    Decker also will miss tomorrow's OTA. He is expected back on Friday. #nyj

    Waiting for someone to freak out about this even though it's hardly a story.
     
  10. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Costello has been trying to make this a big thing all day, multiple tweets about it and he even wrote an article about it. The Post is a rag, not even worth reading, much less following their writers on Twitter.
     
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    From what you saw today, which of the two appeared to have the stronger arm and the quicker release?
     
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    Both have strong arms but Vick gets the slight edge here. It's tough to say from a small sample size but Vick definitely made quicker decisions, not necessarily a quicker release. Genos' release was fine and he threw a really nice ball. If anything it's his hesitation to make a decision (throw or run) and go with it that he needs to really work on.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Odd, everyone that reported from camp today said Geno looked sharp and Vick had a bad day.
     
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    Like I said, Geno looked solid for the most part. Vick looked fine except for one bad pass that he threw behind the WR, but very tight coverage on the play. He still throws a rope. Yet the one thing Geno needs to hone in on is making quicker decisions - whether it's getting rid of the ball quicker, tucking and running, or throwing the ball away.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Not questioning your analysis, just pondering that the Jets beat corps would love to report a great day by Vick, since they would love nothing more than to spark more QB controversy than the tards at ESPN and NFLN are already failing to report.
     
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    Very true.
     
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    Geno's trying find a balance between playing game manager and gunslinger. It felt like he moved from the latter to the former as the year went on. he's more wary of avoiding turnovers, thats probably the cause of the hesitation. a big problem of his was his overestimation of his own ability to make tight throws and not seeing a defender here or there which caused turnovers.

    As his instincts develop he'll be able to get better and better at telling when thats appropriate, but for now it'll just turn up on the filed as a bit of hesitation. Not good, but better than giving away a pick.
     
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    Thanks! Are you planning on making more visits and reports?
     
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    No problem. Unfortunately I don't have anymore visits planned at this point.
     
  20. Superhippy

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    It sounds like Geno is looking very good in the OTA's from the few things I have seen. It's just as telling too that the media isn't saying anything. They have been harping on how much Geno sucks and this so called "QB Controversy" for weeks now and Geno looking better then Vick doesn't fit into their narrative at all. I saw some reports too that Geno looked a little indecisive at times, but that really doesn't bother me this early on. It tells me he is consciously making sure not to turn the ball over and that is a good thing. I do hope Vick is able to figure it out by the time the season starts because you never know when we might need him. Saunders from all accounts looks very good early on too, which I was expecting. The dude has 1st round skills with 6th round size. As long as he is willing to get crushed now and then he could be a special player for us. I want to see Amaro cutting down on the drops as well. He has top end quickness and route running ability for a TE, he just needs to make sure he is doing the basics and holding onto the ball.
     

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