Rex: Jets becoming a team that other teams won't to play

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by dmw, May 16, 2014.

  1. Dax89

    Dax89 Active Member

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    I'm not just talking about QB's getting rattled. Teams can be dominated on both sides in the trenches, WR's can be intimated, teams can be unable to run for 1st downs/touchdowns. Big hits can often knock the ball loose as well. It can absolutely be a recipe for success.
     
  2. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    That must be Danny White from Cowboys - boy, was he shell-shocked.
     
  3. Over & Out

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    Ken O`Brien was ascared of the Buffalo Bills. All of them I would say. Oh, and that twerpy little DB on the Miami Dolphins that made Ken O buckle like a house made of cards at the 1 yard line.
     
  4. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Atlanta entered the game missing six starters, and White went out during the game. Just stop.
     
  5. Barcs

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    That isn't fear. That is wanting to win the game and playing to your strengths as a team. You don't run the ball against a defense that is tough up front often because you will not be successful and you won't get 1st downs, not because you are afraid of getting hit hard. With that said, it also depends on the score. I don't care if you're the worst team in the league at running the ball, if you're up 2 TDs and it's the 4th, you will be running it.

    They are professional athletes. Nobody goes into a game, literally afraid of the opponent. Even the Jaguars go into Denver thinking they will beat the Broncos. Sure they probably won't, but as a coach, you teach players to avoid fear not to succumb to it. No team refuses the run the ball ever in a game. They always will, even if it's a weakness. They just won't do it as often. You have to teach running backs to keep plowing ahead, not to run scared.

    Yes big DBs can indeed intimidate WRs, but good WRs will catch it and take that hit every time. Good QBs don't put their receivers in spots like that. I guess what I'm trying to say is that there are weak minded players and strong minded players. Strong minded players take the hits and keep on going. Weak ones (ie Sanchez) let it completely change how they play.
     
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  6. Royce Parker

    Royce Parker Well-Known Member

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    That was definitely your weakest attempt at a rebuttle in this discussion so far. Nice job ignoring every point I made and hammering away with the same line that you started with. It doesn't get any more simpleminded than that.
     
  7. Big Blocker

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    You just spouted a lot of worthless rationalizations, while ignoring the basic facts. Six starers out, and White leaving the game? Their overall dropoff all season long? Those do not speak to the relevance, the relative performance and what it meant, of the Jets win?

    You must be a homer.
     
  8. Royce Parker

    Royce Parker Well-Known Member

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    No, what I did was to illustrate that there were many factors effecting the starting lineups of both teams and that you can't just point at one team's injuries and disregard the injuries on the other side. What you did was disregard every point that I made and continued harping on the one fact that you think cancels out everything else. Please explain to me how that shows an appreciation for the complexities of the game?

    That article you posted was a joke as the two players that were pointed out as being the most important losses actually played in the game and had significant stats. Maybe you should have tried reading it first.

    Once again, the Jets injuries had no bearing on their ability to compete in that game? You seem utterly unable to address that question because you don't have an answer. Your simpleminded argument dissolves as soon as you take other factors into account. I can't figure out whether you actually believe your own bullshit or whether this is just your sad little way of trying to save face when your argument was so thoroughly destroyed.

    And you can take your "homer" crap and shove it where the sun don't shine.
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Go suck some congealed chowder, fake ass.
     
  10. Dax89

    Dax89 Active Member

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    Why can't we all just get along?
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    What section and seats were your season tickets?


    *crickets*
     
  12. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Sure thing, homer. You don't think of yourself as a homer?

    Holmes was out. Who else was? Winslow, Cumberland, Kerley all played. Goodson played. Along with Ivory and Powell the Rb's ran for a 5.4 average. Meanwhile Atlanta was down to playing third stringers by the game's end.

    "take factors into acccount..." I do. You are a homer.
     
  13. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    You know you are winning an argument when you start getting called names
     
  14. Royce Parker

    Royce Parker Well-Known Member

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    It's pretty ridiculous that you still think calling someone a "homer" is somehow making a point rather than just making you look like an asshole, particularly after there was an entire thread dedicated to calling you out for it. Go ahead and continue to exaggerate what helps your argument and trivialize what goes against it. Just like a politician - all spin and no substance.

    The fact that you decided for yourself that I made my point based on being a Jets fan shows how unable you are to follow a discussion. My point was regarding the fact that you can't start assigning values to wins or losses based on a one-sided tally of who was injured. I used the Jets/Falcons as an example because it happened to be the one at hand. I would apply the same argument to any game with the same type of situation.

    As I said, there are occasionally extreme examples where that argument would work but in almost every case there are too many factors to weigh to just look at one team's injuries and say that that was the deciding factor.

    I'm sure you would never make the same argument to discredit another team's win over the Jets if we had the same number of injuries. In that case you would find some reason why the injured guys weren't significant enough or some other hollow angle like you always do. Your hatred for this team is so overpowering that you can't even see when the discussion is not specifically about the Jets.

    Go rub one out to your life sized statue of Tom Brady, troll.
     
  15. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    The "homer" thing never gets old when you're looking for a laugh. The only person that doesn't see how dumb it is just so happens to be the person that uses it the most.
     
  16. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Oooh, you are Royce's message board ally! Good for you. You deserve each other.

    Homer is a description, ftr. An accurate one in his case. Applies to you as well. It is what it is.
     
  17. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Look who else is back! After I made you look like a fool and several people called you on having a whole thread aimed at me!

    I really am glad to see you again. I love making you look like a fool. No doubt you are one in real life, too.
     
  18. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Heh. What was your ally FlaJet saying about name calling?

    Too funny.
     
  19. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    This is a great day to be me here. Maybe I should forget about lunch and just enjoy the glow right on through the rest of the afternoon.
     
  20. Royce Parker

    Royce Parker Well-Known Member

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    The difference is, first I made a legitimate counterpoint, then I called you a troll. There's a difference there, you just can't see it as usual.

    My ally? If hating on your holier-than-thou style makes someone my ally than I suppose just about everyone on this board would qualify.
     
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