CJ2k tweets he want Andre in NY

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  1. MoWilkNYJ

    MoWilkNYJ Well-Known Member

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    If people are thinking he'd be too much money for us then there's zero chance he ends up in NE.
     
  2. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    I would imagine Andre wants to be on a contender. But then I don't know what contender would want him.
     
  3. kinggofg

    kinggofg Active Member

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    There is a chance that this tweet wasn't just the rantings of cj. It would not surprise me if this was orchestrated. If aj thinks cj a player I'm sure he respects wants him in NY he might start pushing for it.

    If we can afford it which it sounds like we can it would be a steal at any price.
     
  4. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Doubt it.

    I think the fan base puts too much thought into tweets like this. These are players who are just looking to win rings and make their money. They are all more or less friends. When one is available, you will always see players tweet that their team should pursue the said player. That's part of the friendship and champion mindset these guys have.

    I highly doubt the front office told CJ to tweet that to spark interest lol that's a little much
     
  5. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    He won't be going to an immediate contender. His contract is way too much for all the contenders. Teams like New England, Denver, Seattle, San Francisco, etc. can't afford a contract like that.

    In all honesty, his best bet might be the Jets. Awesome backfield, growing quarterback or solid veteran, awesome slot receiver, and a highly talented wide out. Pair him with Decker and Kerley and a kick ass defense and we suddenly are contenders.
     
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  6. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    I happen to like Johnson very much. he's still got gas in his tank. I of course don't know what it is Smith is growing into, but beyond that, yes, if the Jets think adding a wideout can make them a contender, this is just the kind of move they should make.

    Says here they don't make that move.
     
  7. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed but I also don't think they'd make it either. Don't see Idzik making a move like this
     
  8. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    The question is why won't he.

    Is it because he doesn't think the Jets would contend even with Johnson?

    Or is he incapable of pulling off this kind of deal? I may be a skeptic about him, but I am not prepared to conclude this is the case. Still, we can't say it is not the case, either, can we?

    Any other explanations? I don't think preserving cap space next year should be an issue.
     
  9. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    I just think at his core, he is looking to build a young long term roster. There is depth everywhere now with A LOT of youth. In order to sign Johnson, he would be taking in a veteran receiver with few years left who will demand a lot of money. With the addition of Decker and Ford and the three receivers chosen in the draft, I just don't see him taking a gamble on an older player with a big price tag. It just doesn't fit his mantra so far.

    Again, I could be completely wrong.
     
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  10. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Hey, he wants to improve the team. That is nice. Haha.
     
  11. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    The "good" thing about Johnson's contract is that it looks like the dead money is all gone so if a team did trade for him they could cut him at any time without taking a cap hit. He's still very productive so as of last year he was worth his contract but at his age he call fall off very quickly.

    It may be worth it for the right price but I wouldn't want to give up too much for a 33 year old WR even with his level of production. I'm guessing the Texans would want more than I'd want to give to part with him.
     
  12. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Ford does not make this team a contender.

    Too many around here suggest that it is an either/or choice, whether to "develop" the team with young players or to sign people like Johnson. The Jets have the cap space for a move like this.

    Yet they will probably not use it.

    Ftr why would siging Johnson be a gamble anymore than depending on a draft pick, even a high one, to fill a position?

    I don't think Johnson would be a gamble. Yes, his deal you would want to restructure. Beyond that....
     
  13. No Fly Zone

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    Regardless of the cost what's the point if we don't have a solid QB? The Jets brought in Holmes to be the guy to bring them to the next level yet when saddled with his piss poor attitude, Nacho at QB and a system that never was able to exploit him why should we think that having a top guy like AJ would be a game changer it we don't have the tools to use him.

    Hey anyone can by a Indy Car but you need a driver to make it race. Geno's driving a peddle car and Vick is riding shotgun.
     
  14. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    I never said Ford makes us a contender lol I would never think that either. I was referring to Idzik making multiple signings already and taking 3 receivers in the draft. By doing so, he created solid depth with the potential to have a few young stars.

    I'm not saying this move won't happen, but I just don't see it happening with Idzik at the helm.
     
  15. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    By that logic why bother adding any offensive players? I don't know if trading for Johnson would be a good idea but this reasoning is stupid.
     
  16. No Fly Zone

    No Fly Zone Well-Known Member

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    You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. AJ has 5 100 reception years in his career. In the Jets entire history no receiver has 100 receptions in a year. That's a direct reflection on the QB and the system. You don't bring in a guy like AJ for a QB like Geno or a WCO that is geared to the short passing game and timing. He's not a huge difference maker on this team, he'd be used like Braylon, which is important to the team but not for a guy like AJ.
     
  17. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Maybe you're trolling?

    Andre Johnson had 100 receptions with David Carr at QB. He also did last year with Case Keenum at QB for half the season. He's probably a better WR than anyone the Jets have ever had.

    The idea that he wouldn't be a difference maker in our version of the WCO is misguided at best.
     
  18. Big Blocker

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    Good points. What do you think would be fair compensation in a trade?
     
  19. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    I know you are not saying this, but are you implying that the strategy followed to date precludes efforts that would make the team more of a contender this season?

    Perhaps that is the case, but if I really thought that, I might well consider other things to do during the games this coming season.
     
  20. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. We added much needed depth, speed, and talent. Granted, the talent we added isn't Andre Johnson and the rookies haven't developed yet, obviously, but we still are huge amounts better at receiver than we were last year. That's a step towards contention.

    Andre Johnson would be a HUGE impact. He would do wonders for Decker also. I just don't think Idzik signs him due to his age and price tag. I'm hoping like hell he does though.
     

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