I had a really good and factually/statistically demoralizing reply to the Bills fan typed out, but I deleted it because I figured that he already feels badly enough about himself considering he's a Bills fan.
panthers and cardinals were surprises based on the other teams in their divisions. jets were supposed to be the worst team in the league based on the roster.
This link has a chart of the 2013 preseason over/under win totals, showing the Jets at 6.5, the Panthers at 7, and the Cardinals at 5.5. Several other sites say the same numbers. The Panthers ended up getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs , and the Cardinals won two more games than the Jets after being projected for one less win. http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/9/6/4702298/2013-nfl-over-under-win-totals-for-all-32-teams People thought the Jets were supposed to be the worst in the league because the media talked about the 2012 Jets that went 6-10 like they went 0-16. It was certainly one of the worst offensive rosters in the league, but Rex Ryan's Jets have always won with defense, and the roster boasted five 1st round defensive players. Even then, offensive improvement was a strong possibility based almost solely on moving from Tony Sparano to Marty Mornhinweg. That's not even to mention the Chiefs going from 2 to 11 wins, which I forgot about until this moment. I know we're biased toward the Jets, but let's not act like a 2 win improvement was the most impressive turnaround in the NFL last season.
wow,you're putting a lot of effort arguing an off handed remark. so you win. jets were not the most surprising team in the league. i was wrong and will now beg for mercy from the gods of football message boards
Yeah... I don't think so. That's an obvious troll account and I'm sure it's not a Bills fan. It's just some jack ass trying to get a rise out of people by pretending to be one.
I put down for an 8-8. A 9-7 is probably a better prediction considering the improvements esp on offense but I never overestimate when it comes to the Jets. Been burned too many times. But on paper we are better than 8-8. As for our head coach I have little faith in him. He will not win games for this franchise imo. He's in the lower half of coaches in the league.
vs Raiders-W @Packers-L vs Bears-L vs Lions-W @Chargers-L vs Broncos-L @Patriots-L vs Bills-W vs Dolphins-W @chiefs-L vs Steelers-L @Bills-L @Vikings-W @Titans-L vs Patriots-W @Dolphins-L Total:6-10 Possible Wins: vs Bears, @ Chargers (Jets play well there for some reason), @ Chiefs (could see a step back from them) Guaranteed Losses: Minimum 3 losses to Bills, Pats, and Fish. Steelers is always a guaranteed loss, @ Tennessee is a house horrors, vs Broncos, @ Green Bay.
Its more about our schedule than our roster. Playing 8 games vs AFC West and NFC North is going to be very difficult. The Bills and Dolphins are both better than they were last year as well.
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I am afraid you still don't get this, either. Your position on Vick is that he is not an average level NFL Qb at this point. In fact the logic of what you have said about him is that he has never been that good. If you are correct, it is unlikely that the Jets will get play from the Qb position that is competent enough to make the team competitive. I say that because I expect no major increase in competence from Smith. Yes he is unlikely to have the same TD/Int. ratio, but I doubt it improves enough along with some increase in YPA from the last four games, and at least maintaining overall passing yardage. In 2006 the Jets ranked 27th in points allowed, first being worst. The D that year was a major factor in the record. Will the Jet D be that good this year? Last year they were mid-pack. I expect some improvement there, but not much. In fact I think Vick is better than you do, of course, but I also remain concerned about his injury history. It makes it difficult to assess how good this team could be if Vick were the starter. But I do think the Jets should start Vick and ride with him, because it is possible he could last all season, raising hte odds of making the playoffs. That's pretty much it. Not too complicated.
It is difficult to assess the schedule, but it remains a valid overall perception that this year's opponents will be better than last year's. Last year some teams on the schedule were widely perceived around the league as better than they proved to be, specifically Atlanta, Tampa Bay and marginally better play from division opponents Buffalo and Miami. As it turned out the Jets split with both along with doing so against NE. Realistically I see no reason to expect better than that this year, and that would probably require again splitting with NE, no easy task. Remaining games include divisions ofNFC North and AFC West. The latter certainly had such a turnaround last year, except for Oakland, that leaves some wondering if that was an outlier. Beyond Denver, a near certain playoff team, I frankly think KC and SD are for real, that they improved due to much needed changes to their CS's, which will make their improvements sustained ones this coming year. In the NFC north the only weak team is the Vikes. Add it up and it is hard to see the Jets assured of more than two wins against these divisions. Perhaps they win one against a favored opponent. That leaves Pitt and the Tits. Tenn is perhaps a winnable game, but far from assured of one. I don't want this to be my preseason prediction, since it is too early imo. But right now, I can see 6-10.
I know right? I love the last sentence "gently push opinion into rectum far enough so it won't fall out". hahahaha
No worries. This is prime time for Bills fans. Let em keep the fantasy alive. Before the season starts the Bills are going to win the superbowl every year. In a way I wish more Jets fans would be as optimistic or at least better than the losing record regression nonsense after major improvements to the offensive roster.
I don't see the AFC West and the NFC North as particularly tough divisions next year. Peyton Manning may or may not be able to maintain things another season. The Chiefs are unlikely to play at the same level. The Chargers and the Raiders are 2-4 against Rex's Jets. In the NFC North the Packers are always a problem for the Jets and may be a problem next year. We'll have to see if the Jets have a QB who doesn't get mentally dominated by them. The other three teams just aren't that good.
