State of the Receivers

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  1. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    You might want to take your crystal ball back, I think it's defective.
     
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    I've seen Evans play for UCLA for some time now, I think he's going to be productive as a #2 for the Jets. Better then Stephen Hill in my opinion.
     
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    Maybe in a year or two. If teams deemed him a productive #2 as a rookie he would have gone quite a bit higher. In a weaker WR draft, he'd probably have gone mid 3rd round because he is basically a project WR with solid upside. I wouldn't count on him to contribute much as a rookie, if he does that's great, but I think any kind of expectation that he does is unrealistic.
     
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    My 5 year old neice is better than Stephen Hill right now.
     
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    this actually touches on a good point about this draft. The key issue for WR in this draft was depth, meaning that you could get guys in the fourth that would normally be third rounders, etc.. AT least to me, this suggests Idzik played the situation exactly right. The value at WR was not in the first round but later.

    I also get the sense he and MM would rather have a slate of WR than focus on on stud (e.g., Watkins) which makes sense to me

    (As a side note about the draft, and this may have been mentioned elsewhere, but his 3 first round picks thus far have all been the first playey chosen at their respective position 1st CB, DT, S. If nothing else this will set up a good slate to judge his picking skills; if betters corners or DTs emerge from last year or safeties from this year he won't have an excuse of saying "Oh I would've picked that guy if he were still available..."
     
  6. MaximusD163

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    You're absolutely right with that final point. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. Sheldon's rookie year makes it seem as though he was spot on with that position, and although Milliner struggled early, his improvements late in the year make him look like he could be the best CB by far. Your first round picks are the most important to hit on, because they represent the largest financial commitment but more importantly if you miss on them it represents a substantial loss in terms of the value you could have gotten had you chosen another player who did preformed well. Picking safe players in the first round is a good idea for this reason, and it's part of why I'm glad we didn't draft a first round QB last year. Obviously we are committed to Geno for the moment, but it's not as if we missed out on top tier talents to get him
     
  7. 4jetfans

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    I really hope Stephen Hill steps it up this year, If not maybe we can trade him if anyone else wants
    to take a chance on him Hate like HELL to use the word ( BUST ) but I want to see what he does
    in training camp and HELL the Pre-Season games. If this Dude does not have it together its time to
    move on and let another Rookie have a shot. Gates -- Gone --- I like Nelson
     
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    It's just really a shame he has all this physical talent, yet he can't go up get a ball - the football fundamentals and instincts just aren't there. If they aren't there now, they will never be there.
     
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    Wonder is we should start an Over / Under on how many days we think Hill will be with the Jets.
     
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    Trufant was clearly better than Milliner last year. I'm talking about the CB the falcon took in the first round. I like Pryor a lot but Bucannon prob gonna be just as good or better.
     
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    Are you a UCLA fan? I've seen so many weird scouting reports on Evans. Some that say he can make great grabs, some that say he drops catchable balls. Some that say he has great speed, some that say he lacks the explosiveness.
     
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    Trufant was more solid at the beginning of the season, but by the end of the year Milliner was outperforming him substantially. Rookie corners almost always struggle as they adjust to the professional level, and Milliner is no exception. Milliner has much more talent though.
     
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    I think a major reason for this is that those who do scouting reports for the general public don't have the time or energy to put together high quality reports for the 19th receiver taken in the draft. Lets be honest, most fans are only really interested in the players in the 1st or 2nd round, so that's what the mainstream scouts focus on and most of the guys who run their own websites are amateurs with day jobs, and don't have the time to really buckle down and give the details of players who may go anywhere from 120-180.
     
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    If they never had to but full concentrated efforts into guarding Decker before, why would they need to do so now? Has he gained an added skill since switching teams?
     
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    It's just that they had to put a greater emphasis on containing Demaryius Thomas, the biggest offensive threat on that team last year. Decker is now the biggest receiving threat on his team.
     
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    Not a fan of the team but I like Pac10 football. He's not super explosive but he runs good routes, decent speed and he's tough as nails. He can make crazy catches also. He is inconsistent I'm regards to catching the ball at times but the kid is a football player first athlete second

    He plays just like Jerricho Cotchery he was the first receiver to remind me of Cotchery.
     
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    I gladly take Cotch in the 4th, should that be the case. Thanks for the comparison. Gives me a better idea of what to expect. Nothing flashy, just a solid football player.
     
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    you can make the case that Sanchez played better when he had Cotchery/possession receiver.
     
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    I heard Andre Johnson is looking to get the hell out of Houston...
     
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    I bet she catches with her body, though.
     

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