What a joke. Let's hear your trade offer for the Falcons to jump up 12 spots to get the only WR who has anything close to Calvin Johnson potential.
it took 4 years for seattle to turn around. idzik is only in year 2. plus, keeping all the picks means more chances to get players who make the team and provide depth. a lot of the guys seattle won the super bowl with were 5-7 round picks. what did the previous gm trading up/away a bunch of picks get us? no trophy. problem with the quick fix approach is that it is still a longshot but not salary cap or depth friendly, and not long-lasting either. the window closes awfully fast.
No I just hate coronations. I'd rather have a competition than a Calvin Johnson, so of course I'd rather have a competition than anybody worse than Calvin Johnson. Competition, competition, competition. It is for football what location is to Howard Johnson's.
Your sarcasm is outstandingly witty. Great addition to the board. As soon as you offer a viable way to obtain a player of equal caliber to the leagues top WR, you might have a valid point. Until then, thanks for the useless negativity.
So how many applications did you put in so far for GM jobs in the nfl since you seem like you could do better then more then half in the NFL?....................and what rookie did we get that is 5'4?
If you don't see the humor in picking apart the 'WR competition trumps all' argument with that equally farcical counter, dunno what to tell ya you missed out.
Well it's pretty much like saying I'm going to go fight this guy who's only move is to head-butt people, but I'm only going to head-butt him too. All you end up with is two KO'd morons and no winners.
Once you say that Cromartie would win the competition you're implying that he's the better player next year and you basically defeat your own argument. I don't necessarily agree that he is the best player next year but unless the implication is that he would've been wrongly given the starting job based on the competition this perspective doesn't really gel. Nobody came out and said he'll never recover but nobody came out and said that he definitely would regain peak form either, especially when you add on two extra years of age from his last good season. It's an open question and his 3.5M salary attests to that fact rather than other things. What was he slated to make for the Jets this year? 10, 12M something like that? His subsequent hire is basically a one in three gamble that he'll regain peak production, or a one in one gamble that he'll be 1/3 as good as he used to be; take your pick. Retaining him also reduces the possibility of finding a long term answer in Walls or McDougle rather than a 1-2 year solution if Cromartie had produced well, so it's clearly not a simple cut and dry matter and I definitely wouldn't say that the potential talent on the roster this season isn't better than the level of CB play Cromartie provided last year, absent of knowing what he'll produce this year.
Cro was actually scheduled to make a whopping $15 million. It was either extend/restructure or cut, and with the way he played in 2013 it was cut for sure.
He'd have been the incumbent. When was the last time a healthy incumbent who was formerly a good player was replaced on the field by the Jets? They've done most of their replacing in the off-season in the exact way that they did with Cromartie, by letting the player go and looking for a replacement. How did Damon Harrison get on the field? By letting Pouha go. How did Leger Douzable find playing time? By letting DeVito go. Both of those guys would have sat much more than they did if the Jets kept Pouha and DeVito around. How did Antonio Allen get on the field? By letting LaRon Landry and Yeremiah Bell go. There was no way Allen was getting a lot of playing time if those two guys stuck around. As soon as Ed Reed came on board Allen's playing time plummeted. You let older entrenched players go if you want younger guys who are not already clearly seen as good players to get time on the field and develop. If Cromartie had been re-signed the only question the Jets would have been asking at CB this off-season was whether or not Milliner was going to maintain some of the gains he made late last season. Cro would have had to fall all over himself on the field in training camp not to get the starting job. That's the main point I was trying to make. As a competitor in the CB competition Cro's default position was winner unless he lost badly. This despite the fact that he would be an unlikely multi-year starter at the position and had basically no upside. Everybody in the CB competition but Patterson has multi-year upside as one of the things they potentially bring to the competition. Patterson is older and doesn't and he may well start this year but his presence in the competition does not preclude anybody else from unseating him by playing well, even if he also plays acceptably. Cro would have been the starter with acceptable play over anybody else.
Couldn't have said it better myself. The fact that Cro had his full $3.5 million salary guaranteed while Patterson only has $1 million guaranteed is the only point I'd add.
Fixed it for you. As I said in another post, other teams, SEA being the prime example, just play the best players.
Your problem with me is you disagree with me. It is ridiculous to call my posting style here childish. I am one of the better writers here, make coherent arguments, and keep my posts as free of personal attacks as I can. When I call someone a homer, it is because they are homers. That doesn't make them bad people. And it is totally ridiculous to say that when someone disagrees with me, I ONLY say there is something wrong with that person. Really??? You keep this up, bub, you go on the ignore list.
Well, this is more an NFL discussion than about the Jets, but I do think that since Arians went to the Cards, they are a substantially better team. And after all they were in the SB just a few years ago, too. Which is better than you can say about the Jets. I expect them to make the playoffs this year, assuming Palmer stays healthy (I don't know who their backup is). If they were in the AFC they clearly would have made the playoffs last year, and are better than any other AFC team other than the Broncos and Pats. Why do you think they are not a good organization?
To be fair Blocker, you do toss around the homer term a bit too much. There's nothing wrong with being optimistic about the season. I get someone can get a bit too delusional but I'd much rather read and see some optimism in Mid May then all doom and gloom. When the time comes, then by all means jump on the responsible people. But its Mid May. So much can change.
And that makes me the same as junc??? In any event I raised the subject of Cromartie specifically in response to a question by 1985 at post 163. The context is whether the Jets are now set at CB or not. You can apologize anytime you want to begin being a grownup.
Well lets hope and pray we land the 2nd overall pick and hope a Calvin Johnson type of player comes out next year because that's what it took Detroit in the 07 draft class. I don't think anyone is clamoring any of the WRs we took as studs but its not out of the realm to say we took 3 WRs who help the position, at the very least in depth. The biggest thing I love about the WRs we took are that we took 3 Seniors. That wasn't unintentional. That way their route running is much more crisp, and they are mature on and off the field. Eagles had the same approach for Matthews/Huff and it is for good reason.
I frankly do not see myself as a darksider at all. I have posted several times that particularly the Vick signing has the potential to make this season a playoff run. How can I be a darksider and think that when Vegas ranks the Jets in the bottom five of SB prospects??? It's all a matter of perspective. Imo the off season tends to be one where homers post more than pessimists. I am neither, but compared to many here, I agree I am not as optimistic. I prefer to be realistic.
And what's the definition of realistic? That's an abstract word. What's realistic to you may not be realistic to me.
