Browns sign Joe Haden to 5 year extension...

Funny, saw that on Josh Gordon's instagram and all anyone was saying was what an F-up Gordon was, crushing him. If I'm him, I'm staying off of social media for a while.

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It'll be interesting to see how the numbers break down on this.

Sherman's deal was almost a masterpiece for the Seahawks. It's billed as $40M guaranteed but the guarantees happen sequentially after each of the 2015 and 2016 Super Bowls over the next two years. He has $12M guaranteed right now, which is the $1.4M this year plus the $11M signing bonus. If he's still on the Seahawk roster 5 days after the next Super Bowl then 2015 salary becomes guaranteed. If he's on the Seahawks roster 5 days after the 2016 Super Bowl then 2016 becomes guaranteed. The Seahawks can walk away for $8.8M in dead money next year. They can walk away for $6.6M in dead money in 2016. They didn't kill the cap this year to get that arrangement, quite the opposite - they left themselves real room to add another player or two if they need too.

 

Have I missed something here? I thought contract recompense fell into guaranteed and non-guaranteed money. What's the difference between "guaranteed" and "fully guaranteed"? Is this to do with injury/skill? I don't know why I haven't noticed this before.

 

The Seahawks essentially fully guaranteed Sherman's deal early in each year. If he gets hurt this year he's guaranteed the first $12M because the Seahawks paid him the $11M bonus and then guaranteed his $1.4M for 2014. In 2015 his entire salary becomes fully guaranteed on the 5th day after this season's Super Bowl. Again, his compensation for 2015 won't be in doubt at any point if the Seahawks effectively pick up the option. The dead money hit is high enough that they will probably do that unless Sherman is unlikely to play at a high level in 2015. Same for 2016, in which the full guarantee also includes $5M of his 2017 money. After that the Seahawks have a free hand.

It's just a really good deal for them out of what could have been a very bad situation. They have Sherman this season for just $3.68M on the cap. After that they have to start making decisions but their worst case scenario in 2015 is that they don't have Sherman and he has an $8.8M dead money hit. In 2016 they don't have Sherman and he's a $6.6M dead money hit if he is cut that year or off the books completely if he was cut in 2015. In 2017 they have a $4.4M dead money hit or off the books if he is gone by 2016.

To your original question: a salary can be guaranteed for injury, for skill or for both. If it's guaranteed for injury it means you will receive the amounts stated even if you are injured and unable to play. If you're hurt in 2014 and can't play in 2015 but the 2015 salary is guaranteed for injury you will receive the 2015 amount anyway. If your salary is guaranteed for skill it means the team can't just cut you and dump the salary. However if you're injured the team can still use the normal injury process to reach a settlement with you on the contract and terminate it at that point. If a contract is guaranteed for both it is fully guaranteed - you are getting the money no matter what unless you somehow breach one of the terms of the contract that would give the team the right to terminate the deal without further harm.

 

Corners get paid in this league. It's nothing new, and i think Haden is worth that.

This contract is about the max i was willing to give Revis last year (maybe even a slight bit much).
but that greedy fuck had to have even more..

 

Well the average contract is getting bigger because the cap is growing, but it's still a LOT of money. Pettine is pretty clearly trying to replicate the 2010-2011 corner duo we had with Revis and Cromartie by drafting Gilbert. It'll be interesting to see how that works out.