Chad Young Needs His Own Thread

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  1. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    With Ivory and this kid blocking, I am going straight I-formation and running the ball right up the middle.

    The only knock on Marty is his play-calling on short-yardage situations - no need to spread the ball out, just impose your will and run it down their throat.

    I like Bohannon, because he can catch it out of the back-field in those blitzes it's nice to be able to have a nice outlet. This Young kid is a beast.
     
  2. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    Da fuck is a fullback?
     
  3. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    Great Video Byz! I was having a pretty shitty start to my day and this video just made me feel great, thanks! Welcome, to the Jets Mr Young. I love the running game, I hope to see you leading the way through many Big holes.
     
  4. JetsVilma28

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    ^at about 6:05 he levels a OLB or end, then the end or OLB knocks his helmet off and Young proceeds to finish blocking the shit out of the OLB or end with his helmet off. This is a man who loves his trade, and would probably work for free to continue it. #passion

    It might be a safety or a corner actually, but it's still great.
     
  5. themorey

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    Let's just go wishbone with Young, Ivory, and CJ then do a bootleg with Geno. Bam!
     
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  6. JetsVilma28

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    Play defense, run the football, play action pass, bootleg and when we do drop back to pass Geno or whoever must have the quick option to scramble and get down! Geno had 6 rushing/scrambling tds he can run, just get down!
     
  7. BookEndTackles 72&79

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    FB will be a good competition. That spot will depend on what Marty wants from a FB and who can contribute more on ST's. Young looks like a polished blocker, battering ram type but is otherwise limited. Bohannon is a better checkdown option as he has pretty good hands out of the backfield and can produce something with a carry or two a game.
     
  8. 101GangGreen101

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    No need to make things complicated! Who are you, Schottenheimer?
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    One of my favorites (hard to say it's a favorite since the whole show is awesome) is the kick coverage team at 7:40, he blasts his guy sideways, then beats everyone else down the field and while the KR is trying to recover the muffed punts he blasts the guy and the ball squirts like 20 yards toward the goal line.

    There's about 10 plays in there where you see him crush his man, and when the play is being finished you see him fly into the frame to blast somebody else.
     
  10. chris5533

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    This kids an animal
     
  11. PolygamyWinsChampionships

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    It's not a question of what is better in today's NFL, it's a question of what is realistic for today's New York Jets. It's kind of like the decision to let Brad Smith walk and then keep running the wildcat afterwards. Maybe the wildcat wasn't the best idea in general but between the QB situation and the organizational sentiments wrt the Wildcat it would've been much better to have somebody on the roster capable of performing the function competently rather than trying to keep perpetuating the package with people that couldn't. Last year Bohanon got drafted late and was used in a number of situations, and he fell far short of performing the job well. All of Bohanon's areas of shortcomings or at least lack of excellence seem to be major strengths watching Young's tape so why not give him a shot to perform instead this year?

    Plus with a defense oriented roster and HC with an unclear QB situation and weak OL, a very good FB is probably a lot closer to ideal in a number of situations than a spread offense would be on the average NFL team so I disagree with the process of applying macro conventional wisdom to a situation that could easily be a micro exception to the rule.

    I'd agree but would say it's probably more accurate to point out that the pendulum tends to swing back because the herd tends to overadjust to leaning on new trends. This causes the value of skills for the best practitioners of the older system to drastically drop, creating opportunities to add somebody who would still be effective regardless of trends at a deep discount. It basically allows you to outperform the below average or average members of the herd by going against the trend more cheaply but obviously you won't be able to keep up with production of the best cutting edge members. Since this Jets team wouldn't compete with the highest octane spread attacks anyway this year, that's not a bad direction to go down at all. Watching the tape on Young who seems to excel in all areas of traditional FB duties and realizing he went undrafted due to league trends highlights the concept I think.
     
  12. abyzmul

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    That too.
     
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  13. Ralebird

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    What you're talking about is a philosophy, what Chad Young might bring is reality. The reality of each third and one and each special teams coverage, each QB protection and each dump pass transcends the philosophical questions you raise. I just did a little checking and liked what I saw and heard - a blue collar guy who worked his way into Division 1 as a walk on, earned a scholarship and contributed all over the field. He's still a longshot, but I don't think he'll be the first guy sent home.
     
  14. Jetaho

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    Our fullback competition is going to feature a camp battle between Tommy and Chad. Welcome to Goodell's NFL.
     
  15. Br4d

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    I'm not disagreeing with any of this. I'm just saying that despite the fact that the Seahawks and 49ers both use FB's the trend is away from the position at this point. It's very possible there will be no FB's in professional football in a decade at the rate we're going and it's not clear to me that we're better off fighting that trend as opposed to adapting to it and making room for an asset that impacts further down the field.

    I'm sure the Single Wing advocates had very good arguments for maintaining the offense even when Otto Graham was making it clear that the Single Wing was going to be extinct in the near future. The Steelers were the last offense to switch over to the T in 1952. The Browns had been kicking their (and the NFL's) keisters for years before they finally surrendered and let go.
     
  16. MaximusD163

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    Don't be so quick to assume T-Bo is on his way out. Bone-crushing FB's are not as versatile as those who can run the ball occasionally and act as reliable outlet receivers. Since Ivory can't catch a freakin shovel pass if his life depended on it, it's nice to have a guy like Bohanon in that gives Geno a reliable outlet receiver if we want to pass out of run-heavy formations. If we put in two RB's who can't catch, we cut down on a significant "versatility bonus" as I like to call it. I'm not really sure what this guy's receiving skills look like, since I haven't watched any of the videos yet.
     
  17. Cidusii

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    There were a lot of outlet receiver catches in the long highlight reel. He seems pretty versatile as a checkdown option as well. He also showed that he could chip block while doing so as well.
     
  18. Jets Esq.

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    The fullback is going extinct for a reason, but there's an advantage in being that weird team that does things that you have to prepare for differently (if you're not used to playing against formations with fullbacks.) If we have the right fullback, it can still be good, but Bohannon is not the right fullback. We will have to see about this new guy.

    When the passing game improves enough, we could consider getting rid of the fullback, but I think Rex likes playing old school football and will always want a heavy hitting fullback.
     
  19. Br4d

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    I think unless the FB is an offensive weapon in his own right there is just no point in maintaining the position at this point. If he's a 50+ catch guy like Richie Anderson as a FB/H-back that's one option. If he's a 750+ yard guy that's very hard to stop on short yardage like Mike Alstott that's another.

    If he's just a heavy-hitting blocker then why aren't you just lining another guard up in the backfield? The guard at least would be able to handle a DT who broke free at the line of scrimmage and threatened the pocket.
     
  20. Jetfanmack

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    Good lord, that tape is awesome. Good thing he doesn't have a catchy nickname or he'd have been drafted.

    He shows good hands in that video, though that's mostly meaningless without seeing other balls thrown to him.

    I wasn't that impressed with Bohanon last year. Should be an interesting competition.


    I wish his name was Chad Mack, then I'd buy that jersey.
     

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