The mods were saying to keep the site clean to steer clear of vulgar picks, to help keep the site free to use. If you can find one that's not to bad I'm in lol
OP be my GM, acting o/b/o my BM A ton? Many of those "12 picks" were back loaded… ….. from day one, it was obvious that TB (off the Revis deal) was going to move one way or another to turn that 3rd into a 4th (a "March 1st cut, whatever) and from there what exactly did the Jets end up with in round 1 through 3? A slew of picks?….not exactly….there's this impression that the majority of those TWELVE JUICY DRAFT PICKS were sitting in "Blue-Chip-ville" (rounds 1-3). The fact remains, while the Jets had a lot o' picks in general, most of them were in the "back seat" so to speak: 1st rd, #18: Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville 2nd rd, #49: Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech 3rd rd, #80: Dexter McDoogle, CB, Maryland 4th rd, #104: Jalen Saunders, WR, Oklahoma 4th rd, Shaq Evans, WR, UCLA 4th rd, Dakota Dozier, OL, Furman (comp. pick - can't move) ___________________________________________ 5th rd, Kirby van der Kamp, Punter, Iowa State … correction: Jeremiah George, LB, Iowa State 6th rd (19th pick in the round) #195; #209; # 213; 7th rd: #223
First off, I never said we turned into the Packers overnight. But yeah, 19 draft picks in two years (as opposed to 21 in four) gives you a better shot at being a deeper team. And I guess it's possible that we just fired Tanny a year too early before he could execute his masterstroke, but if that were the case he'd probably have another job. He had a plan: all-in with veterans, rookies are a luxury. And it damn near worked. But to think he was fully prepared to blow it all up and shift into draft-first mode? Don't really see much evidence for that.
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They have 20 undrafted free agents on their roster. It saves a lot of money regardless of the new CBA.
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It was dumb to keep all those late late round picks. I understand the compensatory picks can't be moved but there's no reason to take 9 guys on day 3 like that, including 5 of them in rounds 6-7 --it's possible they all could be cut in TC!!!
I can argue against this approach...this is the draft...think of how many players you look at a year or 2 later and go lol remember when this guy seemed good? It happens all the time... I don't mind the volume it's more opportunity from more players the jets see something in.
Fat chance all 12 make the team / practice squad. It would have made sense to at least deal for some picks in 2015.
The other big thing with those draft picks is that the compensatory picks can't be traded. 4 of our picks were compensatory, so we had to use them where they were. We only had 8 tradable picks, which is a bit more than average, but nothing crazy.
Moan all you want, the reality is 6th and 7th round picks don't have much trade value, and we only had 2 we could trade anyway. about the best the Jets could have done is use them to move back in to the 4th, or used one of their 2 tradable 4th round picks to move to the top of the third bottom of the 2nd...assuming they could find a taker.
The Lions moved up in the second round with their fourth and seventh The Rams moved up in the second round with their fifth The Eagles moved up in the second with a fourth The Charges moved up in the second with a fifth The Broncos moved up in the second with a fifth (and acquired a seventh) The 49ers moved up in the second with a fifth.. The Jags moved back into the second with their 3rd rounder and 5th rounder (and drafted Allen Robinson who is way better than any receiver the Jets took) (this is just the day 2 trades of 2014 - and it's not even close to all of them) The Jets had plenty of ammo to move up and get the guy they wanted/needed. It's definitely not a case of their late round picks not having value - its Idzik not pulling the trigger. Personally, Id rather have the ability to secure players in the higher rounds than end up with 9 day 3 players that might not even make the team.
Overall Idzik has been a mixed bag so far. And I didn't overvalue the whole 12 pick thing in the first place. The fact was all along that the Jets had one first round pick and one second round pick, and on average those were likely going to be the only players with a good shot at starting. Amaro in the second round might well turn out to be a good pick. Although the focus here was on wideout, a good receiving TE will help the passing game, and Cumberland has not been impressive enough. Having said that, the Jets would likely have been better off trading up for a quality wideout, using later round picks in a package. That the word is Idzik tried to do this and failed does not explain why he failed. I give him credit for trying, but he did not succeed. So I understand your frustration, but never bought into this whole business of how great it was to have 12 picks and all that. Instead my main criticism remains he mismanaged the cornerback position, and it remains unresolved. As for the criticism others made about not making a big move in the draft for a Qb, I understand that argument, and remain quite skeptical of Smith. But the signing of Vick imo was part of a strategy to become more competitive at Qb for the coming season while avoiding having to depend on Smith. I am concededly not sure how this will play out, but expect that by next off season the team will have a much better idea what they have in Smith and whether they will move on from him, perhaps with a first round Qb pick next draft.
Two things... From all accounts, it seems like Idzik tried to move up twice. The first time was the Eagles pick which ended up going to the Browns for Johnny, the second time was the Buccs pick which they kept because they wanted ASJ. I guess you can call it a failure, but if this is the case, what more could Idzik have done? Second, how were we supposed to address the CB and receiving game all in one draft?
If trading up 10 or 12 spots meant giving up 2015 picks, which happened to some teams(That may very well have been why the Jets could not trade up in round 1.), then the Jets/Idzik ABSOLUTELY made the right choice. As the Colts and Redskins saw this year, trading so many picks of the future will only bite you moving forward.
Cornerback should have been resolved before the draft. As it stands now the Jets in effect are hoping a third round pick will be able to start. That is a very long shot.
I thought you were talking specifically in the draft. I think the addition of Pryor will help the secondary which should take a bit of the weight off [insert starting CB2 here]'s shoulders. Whether it's Patterson or McDougle or whoever, just Pryor's presence alone will help. I'm not saying the CB needs should be ignored, but I wouldn't say they weren't addressed. They were, directly and indirectly, just not the way we may have wanted.
