Argh...is this still being discussed? No decent GM ever picks BPA..that's a fan contrived term and has never been how teams operate.
No it doesn't, your scouting/personnel department does. I've never seen someone more wrong on this message board, and that's saying something. If you are the only team out of 32 to recognize Tom Brady's talent, it doesn't matter, you still take him #1 overall. The Patriots did not recognize Tom Brady's talent level, they thought of him as nothing more than a backup to their franchise QB Drew Bledsoe. Tom Brady shocked the NFL with what he has become.
It's called sarcasm. I'd like to see if you even know what "the law of probabilities and averages" means.
I agree 100%! That's why I can't be sure if any pick is a reach and that's what makes draft so much unpredictable fun. This is asso the reason why I'm so willing to give FO a benefit of the doubt.
Really?? Is that what sarcasm means? The fact that you think McDougle was the best grade at their pick in Round 3 tells me all I need to know about your ability to evaluate talent. They could've had him way later, deal with it.
No you don't! You use your 1-4 round picks to fill other needs with studs and draft your franchise QB in the 5th. Knowing that player you want will go at #200 and picking at #1 is beyond moronic. It's almost like you were planning to stay at Holidays Inn last night but after a massive brain fart booked at Ramada instead.
I didn't say he was the best grade at their pick, I said he was their best grade at their pick. What if another team who picked 5 picks later "reached" for him? He would not have been available way later.
Um, no you don't. Because before the draft, you never know where a player is going to go. If you grade a QB to be the the best QB of a generation, you take him #1 overall. Public perception means nothing.
If you 100% know a QB will be a franchise QB, you grab with your first pick. All it takes is one other team seeing that for you to lose him if you try to wait. The thing is, nobody is every 100% certain and if they are then the rest of the league is also certain and that player goes #1. It's a hypothetical that you really wouldn't come across in the NFL
How does me agreeing with "we don't know what on other team boards" negates anything I said about your intention of wasting 1st rounder on someone you KNOW you can have in 5th?
You advocated picking Brady in 1st KNOWING he will there. Now you're amending it by not knowing the board? No way. You picked Brady #1 knowing other 31 teams are planning to pass him 5 times. You're fired.
Of course! My argument with Max is a little different. The guy made a mistake and is being too stubborn to admit it. Some of our picks sound like a reach, but just like I think Jets FO evaluates talent better than I ever will, I also have no doubt they have a better feel for when each prospect is likely to go.
You would never know that 31 other teams didn't recognize the talent, I'm saying even if you are the only team to recognize it you take him because you don't know. You don't know their draft grades. Public perception at the time was that Brady could be a 2nd or 3rd round pick. If you're talking about time traveling back in time and letting a GM know exactly how a draft played out, why the fuck are you talking about that? It's the most meaningless point in the history of this board. I didn't make a mistake, I just wasn't aware you were trying to have such a pointless debate.
I disagree, mock drafts are nothing more than mock drafts. There was a time when mock drafts never even existed, so technically where a player is "expected" to go is not fire-able offense. It might raise questions but really no one knows exactly where each player is going to get picked.
I always find it funny when people think THEY know who the BPA is. Forget the professional scouts whose job it is to analyze and rank players. Forget the NFL coaches and GM's who are paid millions for their expertise. The guy on the internet who read some list ranking players KNOWS who the best players are much better. derp
Of course you take Brady 1st if you know who he is nothing about other boards. My point was that the timing must be based on what you think other GMs think. I said some of our picks might be a reach because just like everyone else all I can see are mock drafts, which nothing more than guesses. FOs gotta have a better feeling for comparative value and so I'm giving Jets benefit of the doubt. I love that JI filled the needs. As to specific selections and timing - they know better, hopefully.
