If the Jets are sitting at 49 and both Lee and Matthews are there, who do you think the Jets should pick? Personally, I would go with Jordan Matthews. Although I really like Lee's game, I think Jordan Matthews' hands, size, and route running abilities will translate nicely to the NFL, though I think overall Lee is more explosive as a wide receiver.
Lee is not falling to 49 stop being insane. The question is whether Matthews will be there and if it's worth trading up for Lee if so.
I agree. So much was made of the mocks with Lee, but it's apparent that something with either his catching style or injury history or both has scared teams away. I like Matthews a lot more, although you have to wonder what scared teams away from him as well. His body of work is second to none. They both have a drop percentage that is a concern. I'd take Matthews though. He's waaaaay more versatile.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if some teams had Jordan Matthews ahead of Lee on their board. It's obvious that something caused Lee to fall and I was shocked to see that he got past Philly, Carolina, and the Pats. There might be a chance that he will be there at 49 and the Jets could add an excellent receiver.
Once Lee made it past us it's not that shocking he fell about 10 more spots, will admit that it's somewhat surprising that somebody didn't step up and take him or trade up for him with one of the last few picks though. Still I'd be surprised if he makes it past about 37, at that point I'd be inclined to think there's more to the health concerns than what is known publicly. Matthews is a really smooth receiver but he doesn't do anything thrilling which obviously kept him out of the first round in this stocked draft. It's hard to put a major knock on him besides percentage dropped maybe but it's also hard to see him becoming a true star. Nothing wrong with adding a low risk above average producer, I'd be happy to see him added to the team. Really though it's extremely hard to quantify whether it would be better to add ASJ and a receiver in the late 2nd/early 3rd (maybe Landry or Adams?) or Matthews and BPA TE, or best OL in the 2nd and trade up for WR with someone like Fiedorowicz in the 4th. There are a bunch of permutations and more than one of them might work out really well for the team. I think most scenarios work out better with a trade up in 2nd or 3rd but it's hard to even say that for sure with the amount of depth. Tomorrow should definitely be a very interesting day for the direction of the franchise though, maybe more so than today.
Dude it's 2 in the morning here, speak English. I get what you are saying, I'm really just wondering if Lee is that guy that everyone had early that will drop like a stone. Would be a thing if the Jets landed both Matthews/Lee and Landry, though, wouldn't it?
LEE its the obvious answer, whatever questions about his game that prevented a higher pick are outweighed by the AMAZING season he had in 2012 at that point. as is, we'll need to trade for lee if we want him, a 4th and a 2nd tog et us into the rounds top 10. there are a lot of teams that can use a guy like him, us included.
If Lee falls to us in the 2nd round, I'd start to think there's something going on behind the scenes with him that nobody knows about. Even if he has some questions marks and/or flaws, he should have been taken already.
The grammar falls off after a certain number of shots of Jack. Obviously the concerns on Lee are greater than they might have appeared but at some point soon I think somebody just has to grab their sack and make the pick based on his insane production when he was healthy. I don't buy the 40 time sending him into a spiral because he has always been able to get open and create, he hasn't gotten slower in a year. People can speculate all they want about the hands but he doesn't drop that much and his production speaks for itself, he did it somehow. I think Matthews/Lee then Landry would be overkill. Much rather add OL/TE or even OLB/CB in the 3rd at that point.
I think the recent stigma of USC is affecting Lee, right or wrong. A guy with his talent should have been a late 1st rounder at most. Someone will take him in the 2nd round, though. I'd be VERY SURPRISED if he was still around in the 3rd round.
Kinda leaning towards ASJ at 49. If we see a good receiver lingering at the end of R2, trade up. But that's easier said than done.
Lol. Your spelling and grammar are fine, it's my ability to comprehend after a few hydrocodon that are the issue. Broken leg and all. Insane production is not at much of a premium these days, or Matthews would have gone far earlier. And I hate measurables, but we'll see how far Mr Beckham gets in the pros. Yes, you're right about overkill, just a pipe dream of mine.
Someone posted this on footballsfuture about Lee, and it makes total sense. "I see a player that is willing to go across the middle, someone who can make the tough catches. look at the highlights that they showed for OBJ and cooks, and NOT ONCE did they show them going over the middle making a catch in tough traffic. He would be HUGE value in the 2nd round, if he falls to us in the 2nd round. You, as well as everyone else on this thread are only seeing what happened last year, where he had to deal with 2 different quarterbacks, as well as 3 different head coaches." If Lee falls to us, he almost has to be the pick. We could still take another WR in the 4th round or so.
Well I was wrong on Manziel so I might as well make it two in a row...I doubt Lee or Matthews will be there when we pick and even if they are we will take a QB or CB instead. For sure they may try to move up with Carr, Garoppolo and Lee all still there.
I think it's safe to say we will have to trade up to get either. Not as far for Matthews though, maybe just a few spots.
