I think the Jets might inquire about a trade up but for Sammy Watkins only. If he is not selected by no. 5 then the Raiders would be on the board. It would take at least our no. 1 this year, no. 1 next year plus maybe one of our 4th round picks. (the draft value of the 5th overall selection is 1700. The 18th overall value is 900. That is a diff. of 800. Which equates to the 21st overall selection in this year's draft) I doubt Idzik would give up more than that. If they stay at #18 and Dennard or Justin Gilbert is still there I think they would take the cornerback. Even though it's two years in a row. Or maybe even one of the safeties either Dix or Pryor. The Jets signed the top FA Wr this season plus they are going to be run orientated with CJ2K. Not impossible they would consider trading down at 18 to somewhere in the 20's if a team calls them when they select (probably to take a Qb). They could trade down to the 20's and still get Lee or maybe even Cooks. They have three 4th round picks and could use one of them to trade up in later rounds or like NEP does trade it to another team for a 2015 draft pick.
Too much for a WR..if you stunk last year and have a top pick then fine but I wouldn't give up a future 1 for any wideout.
Atlanta gave up the store to acquire Julio Jones and you have to say it was worth it. I think there will be trades today esp for Qbs. The only major trade up I see the Jets doing would be for Watkins. There could be smaller ones like to go up a few slots to get Gilbert or Pryor but probably Idzik will stand pat and take the best available player at 18. You might see a trade up later to get a tight end they like kind of like when they drafted Keller.
I hate trading up because it's the antithesis of building a strong deep roster to weather the everyday storms that NFL competition creates. Risk is not reduced when you trade up, it's increased, because a single injury can wipe out even greater value than it normally does. There are some 2014/2015 dynamics in place that maybe make trading up this year less of a value sink than in a normal year but it's still a value sink overall.
I like trading up vs. trading down too. But if you think Watkins or Clowney is a special talent then if you have the picks or players why not. Those are the only two guys probably worth giving up the ranch for. What about Coples and our no. 18 and one of the 4th round picks to trade up to get Watkins. Idzik is making calls telling teams he is interested in a trade up but even he won't know until the team is on the board (and if the player he wants is still there)
Who are you playing at rush linebacker all year if you trade Coples out in a trade up? Barnes got hurt last year and he's over 30. That makes him double-dicey in terms of 2014 production. I wouldn't trade Coples in a package. If I was going to trade Coples I'd trade him even up for another useful asset with significant upside. I might trade him for a package of lower picks if the value was right, 2 or 3 2nd rounder/3rd rounder type picks.
So then what would you rather have: Coples or next year's no. 1 pick. If the Raiders would take Coples instead of the no. 1 pick next year would you do it?
If you're a contender and you feel you're one or two moves away from winning a championship. Then I can understand moving up. A team in the Jets position has no business moving up. We need depth, let's stay put and draft the best player available at one of the positions of need.
How? They were terrible last year, and before that, got bounced early in the playoffs every time. And that's with them already having a very good QB. Makes even less sense to go all in on a WR when your offense is full of question marks like ours. I do think it might be a good idea for us to trade up though in certain circumstances. Not for a WR, but if there is a QB or CB or safety they really like, and if the price is 3rd/4th round pick or two. I wouldn't give up a 2nd rounder. Really depends on how they evaluate a lot of those guys though.
You're right but you do it only when there's a big time prospect available. In most drafts there isn't someone like a Clowney or Watkins. It's probably not going to happen for the Jets because Watkins will maybe go in the top 3. And the price will be too steep to pay unless he falls to the Raiders.
Said this already, but I wouldn't mind a situation where we jump in front of the Steelers (trade w/ Bears) - that's only 4 spots that can't cost that much
To me they shouldn't draft a Qb even though there might be some good ones in the 3rd round or later. Like Murray. But they signed Vick and unless they get rid of Simms or expect to carry a Qb on the PS (has to go through waivers) then why carry so many Qbs unless they aren't certain that Geno is their future guy.
Watkins is not on my radar simply because he's going to be a top 5 pick. IMO Lee is going to be a really good NFL receiver. Why trade up when we can take our guy and be set at receiver for the next 10 seasons.
For Lee I think you could trade down to get him. Some have him even going later in the 1st as far down as the 49ers. Watkins claims Rex told him they were going to try to get him. Of course Rex's son is a Wr at Clemson too so he knows Watkins very well.
I wouldn't trade either of Coples or next year's #1 to move from 18 to 5. Getting your guy at any cost is what got the Jets in trouble in the first place. I'd rather get a good guy and keep the other good asset and let the chips fall where they may. The 5 pick doesn't bust much less often than the 18.
Many drafts have a WR as good as Sammy Watkins in them. It's the Calvin Johnson/Andre Johnson level prospect that is not often available. None of those guys in this draft IMO. Lots of good receivers, no superstars unless somebody hits his perfect ceiling.
That's just it. If you think he's just a good Wr and not an elite one then you're right. He would have to have that kind of evaluation to merit a trade up like that. But he might be in that category at least on paper.
The idea of moving up for Watkins is less than appealing as I'm not in favor of sacrificing picks or player when we can obtain better value by staying put and let everything come to us at 18 where Cooks would be my first choice followed by Lee, Gilbert or Shazier.
