Potential Draft Day Trade w/Cowboys (Rumor)

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I'm beginning to get the feeling that Ed Reed will end up retiring before week 1, but maybe some team will end up not having the right FS fall to them in the draft and get him on a 1 year deal.
     
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    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't Rex's bro running that D when Claiborn came in?
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yeah. Teams didn't throw at him much, though. He got thrown at 69 times while Brandon Carr was thrown at 87 times.
     
  4. He's disappointed as the potential #1 corner he was selected to be but he still can play solid man & would be a great #2 paired w/ Milliner. Sign me up.I just don't feel right about taking a corner #1 unless it's Gilbert & that is solely due to his "big play" ability not so much his coverage skills or filling a hole to make the whiners go away
     
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    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    I have heard Gilbert being touted as a younger Cromartie, due to his athleticism... I don't really want a guy who only relies on his athleticism like Cro did.. I want a corner that has good mechanics as well as being athletic..
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    If we're going CB in the first, Kyle Fuller please.
     
  7. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    I think he will be around when we pick in the 2nd round.. Would rather WR in first and CB in second.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I don't think he'll be there after the first round ends. Like you, I would much rather see the Jets draft a receiver in round one, but that's not what my post was about.

    From what I have seen from the corners in this draft, especially the early ones, if there is a corner in the draft that fits what the Jets do best, it's Fuller. Versatility, brainy play, insane closing speed, and physicality. This dude is going to make a team happy.

    And getting back to what I said in my post, IF the Jets simply MUST take a corner at 18, or even trades back a few shots to do so, Fuller is the guy.
     
  9. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    I sure hope this is BS. The Cowboys pass D was one of the worst in the league last year. They gave up 33 pass TDs, 65 % completions, and nearly 300 yards per game.

    In fact the entire defense was an absolute joke. There was a game (against the Saints?) where I think they gave up like 600 yards of total offense.
     
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    I can see this trade happening since Rex seems to prefer coaching up underachieving or frequently hurt highly touted talents as opposed to overachieving hold the fort players.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    That Cowboys defense was the worst in Cowboys history, but I don't remember anyone bringing it up when people were screaming to sign Demarcus Ware.

    It's the Tampa 2 run by a man who should probably be in a nursing home. It was doomed to failure.
     
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    nevbeats319 Well-Known Member

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    i don't remember claiborne being bad a rookie under rob ryan...
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    He didn't have a disaster year, I mean his low interceptions-to-touchdowns kind of killed his QB rating against stat, a stat which I think is pretty stupid anyway. He had 55 tackles and a pick. He wasn't really tested a whole lot. Hard to know his potential when he went from an attacking man defense to a bowl of oatmeal the next year.
     
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    Trading for a tested player makes sense to put us at ease with not drafting a CB first. However, I think there are a lot better deals out there and we can control this with so many bargaining chips. Is Dallas the only team who wants to part with a cornerback on it's roster? Keep looking.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    There probably won't be players with Claiborne's ability, but there could be more experienced and less talented corners that have gaudy contracts. I'm only open to this if it's a fourth round pick or later, since as you said he is unproven.

    Could be that the Jets have been looking in multiple places, and Dallas is the only team with a staff dumb enough to leak the interest. Assuming the interest is real and not some blogger trying to get his on his site.
     
  16. Of course you want a guy who has the technique to go along w/ the athleticism. But that player doesn't really exist in this corner class. If you're giving me a choice between a fluid athlete & an overachieving technician..i'm taking the athlete all day long. Physicality & mechanics can be taught..athleticism cannot.

    I don't agree w/ these Gilbert comparisons to Cro. About the only thing they HAVE in common is athleticism. Cro is 3 inches taller than Gilbert, has a much more "long stride" type movement & shy'd away from contact in college(Gilbert isn't physical but I wouldn't say he shies away either).

    Gilbert doesn't have the same elite range Cro does nor the wingspan, but he likely has better body control & is better against shifty WRs

    I seem to argue this point every year around this time but in this era of football you have got to have a couple athletes on either side of the ball.Guys who can match-up w/ the "basketball rules" currently being employed throughout the league. The Parcells mentality of 22 lunch palers doesn't work anymore.Sorry.It just doesn't.

    I know this fan base prefers the blue collar types, & we've missed badly on some raw athletes..but that doesn't mean you ignore that aspect moving forward. You have to have a couple athletes...if they aren't as physical as others on the roster..you just have to deal with it.
     
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    He didn't have a good year either. I remember vividly, Jerry Jones saying that Rob Ryan's scheme was too difficult for players to understand. Essentially, the cowboys defensive players are too dumb for Rob Ryan, I don't want that scrub. If he can't work with Rob, what makes us think he can work with Rex?
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Nothing Jerry Jones says should matter to anyone. He is a drunken power monger with about as much football sense as a librarian.

    It should tell you something that Jones ran out and hired a fossil to replace Ryan and they followed that season with the historically worst defense ever to wear a Cowboys uniform. Jerry Jones is the reason the Cowboys fail every year.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    I completely agree, but do you buy the excuse that those players weren't intelligent enough to play in Rob's system?
     
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    If John Idzik is as thorough as Bradway claims he is in doing a search multiple places include: the CFL, Arena League, UDFA, Central Park pick up games, FDR Drive weekend warriors lol!!
     

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