WW85'S FINAL 2014 NY JET'S MOCK DRAFT

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  1. WW85

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    Revis is a once in a decade type player

    Fuller has all the attributes to be a successful, solid NFL CB.
     
  2. Br4d

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    You're not supposed to be looking for solid and successful on your 1st round pick. That's what you're willing to settle for if the guy you took doesn't reach his full potential and become a star.

    You have to be looking for great players in every draft and you really have to be looking for them in the first 2 rounds because the talent begins to thin out after that. Drafting a guy you think is going to be a solid, successful player is a 3rd and 4th round game, not one you play at the top of the draft.

    The only CB I want the Jets looking at on the 18 is Dennard. He's the only guy in this draft that you could make a reasonable projection that he'll be a star and if that doesn't happen at least he'll be a solid successful NFL CB.
     
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    You're going to teach me draft philosophy, that's rich.

    That's why I passed on Dennard, I don't think he's going to be successful in the NFL.

    I brought up players like Revis don't grow on tress, Fuller has the talent and game to be worthy of the 18th pick.
     
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    not arguing at all about fuller, his talent, and/or the possibility that he is the pick at 18 - u know how i feel about the jets having to dip into the CB pool AGAIN in round 1. it sucks and IMO has "cornered" them so to say in a draft that is loaded with talent at other needy positions.
     
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    I agree not a fan of taking a CB @18 but I like Fuller more than Dennard, Verrett and especially Roby. I like this draft but I would sub out Campanaro with Josh Huff. Great mock.
     
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    Fuller doesn't have the talent necessary to be the 18 pick.
     
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    I agree I would be depressed if Dennard is the Jets pick @18. He is a penalty waiting to happen on defense. There is aggressive and then there is super aggressive and that is what he is. Would have fit better in the maul them all the way down the field era of the 50's and 60's.
     
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    And Dennard does? Fuller is worthy of the 18. But we will see in about 3 days and a wake up.
     
  9. Br4d

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    Fuller's another combinebunnyrabbit who ran a fast 40 at the combine and made people go back and look at tape that had already identified him as a likely 2nd round pick and then they double-clutched, doubted their initial evaluations, and promoted him because he ran a fast 40.

    He's about the #40 prospect in this draft and he's about the 4th CB. That's where he ranked in January before the combine and that's where he belongs now. He's also a zone CB.
     
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    i really like this mock.

    my ideal scenario would be Dennard and Matthews (even if 2nd round trade forward), but Fuller and Landry is more realistic.
    i like the Iowa TE, John Brown, and the attention to ST late..
    you also tied in the visits and the alleged interest as good as possible (as so much is smoke)..

    minor nitpick, i'm not interested in Campanaro. would use that first 6th rounder on locking up Hornsey instead. Improving the punting game is a priority of mine.. not sure about Boyd either..
     
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    I want nothing to do with Roby. The fact that he visited the Jets makes me very nervous that they might select him in the 2nd round.

    I really don't like any of the CBs in the first 2 rounds, I think you can get good value for a CB in the 3rd round and below, Fuller has the technique to be a starter, but I don't want just a starter in the 1st round. I want a player with star potential that can impact the game more. I would much rather get a receiver (Lee) or get a safety.

    Lee is my BPA at 18 for the Jets and I will be wearing my PJs inside out everyday until Thursday
     
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    I've thought about your draft a good bit WW85, and while I greatly respect your knowledge, think your reasoning is valid, can understand why you made the picks you did, and think it would definitely upgrade the talent level of the team and address some needs, I just can't get on board with or be excited about this draft. If you switched out Fuller and Landry for either Cooks/Beckham and Attaochu or Cooks/Beckham and ASJ, I'd like this draft a WHOLE lot more and maybe even love it. I know I'm probably gonna be disappointed and pissed, as that probably won't happen, but I really want the Jets first two picks to be one of those two options as I think that would be the best thing for the Jets and improve their team the most.

    With Cooks/Beckham and ASJ then the 4th round pick used on Fiedorowicz could hopefully be used on a FS like Bailey, Vereen or a CB.

    I don't doubt that Fuller is everything you say he is, but I just will not be happy with another 1st round CB. Even if he wound up being a HOFer, I just would never be happy with the pick. I'd be happy with an WR, TE, OT, FS, or OLB as the first pick, but not CB.

    I think Landry has the best hands in the draft and had a great collegiate career, but I'm not sold on him in the NFL due to his smaller stature and relatively slow foot speed, which is a lethally bad combo for most WRs. Further, I don't think the Jets' offense needs a possession-type receiver. They already have at least a couple of those in Kerley and Nelson (with Kerley being on the shorter and slower side and Nelson tall and slow), and to some degree in Decker. IMO they need a speedy playmaker at WR most of all, followed closely by a speedy pass rusher and a two-way TE.

    I like the Skov pick in round 3. He's a good prospect with good speed and I like drafting and grooming Harris' replacement now, and he could even beat out Davis.

    I love the 4th round picks, I just hope Fiedorowicz would still be there in the 4th. I don't know anything about Webster, Brown and McDougle, but trust your judgment and they certainly sound like good prospects. I definitely like adding the punter to improve our STs.

    I'm not nearly as high on Campanaro as you. IMO he's just another posssession receiver, and if the Jets have taken Landry and already have at least two possession-type WRs in Nelson and Kerley, they certainly don't need another. I'd rather take Campanaro, however, and replace Landry with Cooks, Beckham, Mathews, Adams and maybe even Lattimore or Robinson or even Attaochu or ASJ. I'm just a firm believer that the Jets need speed on the outside at the WR position.

    I still don't know what to make of Boyd. I like the fact that if he could become a quality backup, the Jets wouldn't have to change their offense if Geno was injured. He certainly has played well in big games and has some potential, but I'm bothered by his accuracy issues and decision making/reading of Ds. I think he'd definitely be worth taking a flyer on with a comp pick in the 6th, however.
     
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    We agree again (on Roby)! lol That said, however, I'd rather take Cooks/Beckham/Lee and Roby in round 2, than Fuller in round 1 and then have to settle for Landry or Ellington at WR.

    I think the fact that the Jets have met with Roby 3 times speaks volumes. I can understand using two meetings as a smokescreen for a 1st round prospect, but not three meetings with a guy who probably will be a 2nd round pick.

    I could live with Roby, Desir or McGill in round 2, but do not want a CB in round 1 under any circumstance. I'd rather the Jets take a CB in round 3 or lower. I want a WR and Attaochu or a WR and ASJ as our first two picks.
     
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    This is such a deep draft. I'd just like the Jets to get two guys who project to be stars without settling for the safest choice or reaching for another prospect who is 50/50 to make us just hate the pick in a year or two.
     
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    I wonder what the Jets see in Roby to have him visit 3 times.
     
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    He ran a 4.34 at the combine. I'm sure Rex is trying to figure out if he can fix what's broken and make him a more consistent CB. The athletic ability is there but Roby has gotten burned a lot also. They probably figure he has a real chance to drop to the 3rd round too. He'd be a much better pick there because if you fix him you got a star CB cheap.

    Edit: and yeah if people were projecting him in the 1st he'd be a cbr to me.
     
  17. NCJetsfan

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    Beats the hooey out of me. He's supposed to have great athleticism and the physical tools, but his character concerns are so big, including his work ethic, that I just can't see it at all.
     
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    i can't see selecting Roby either.

    considering the CB's that will potentially be there in the 2nd, i wouldn't select one there. too many other potential values to be had in the 2nd. If we don't take a CB in the 1st, i'd wait till the 3rd or 4th before revisiting it.
     
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    I've seen projections from the 1st round to the 3rd round, but let me get this straight, we cut Cromartie because of his inability to improve his technique. So now, we bring in a troubled kid with bad technique and great athleticism? I've seen Roby play many times and that guy has shit technique - in my opinion that's a 3rd round or 4th round prospect.

    Well I guess that fits the Jets 2nd round criteria as of late. Get a project and hopefully he fulfills his potential (which we are like 0 for 100 right now)
     
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    The way the offseason has progressed, does seem to make corner a huge need. ( sadly ... really wanted a top FA corner )
    But I have confidence or blind hope.:rolleyes: in our secondary.. plus Rex Ryan.
    Let him compensate for a weaker secondary... have Rex earn his money.

    1st round -- either pass rusher or offense please..

    Cooks is a warrior and I think will come up clutch for the Jets time and again.
    In Cooks, I see speed, all out effort and motivation to be the best.
    With the addition of Chris Johnson.... add in Brandin Cooks .... Gotta luv the speed we would have.

    Mathews -- another wr I would love to add.. has good speed, size and really productive.

    I guess what I am trying to say ultimately.... Let Rex coach defense with less and use our resources for offense.

    Unless the chance for good-great pass rusher or elite QB presents itself.... of course.
     
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