It will be interesting to see if they trade for Claiborne if that is even anything more than wishful thinking on somebody's part. If they do then with Claiborne and Patterson they may be able to avoide the need to draft a CB at all this year assuming one of them might be healthy enough each week to play.
The Cowboys only have $5.5M in cap space right now and trading Claiborne would bring them down to $400K of cap space (plus $9.6M in dead money). That just doesn't seem like a likely scenario. If they want Fuller I hope they can trade back a few spots to get him. I realize that's wishful thinking on my part but if Manziel falls to 18 maybe Idzik can work something out with Cleveland. Swap 1st and 2nd round picks plus their 5th. We should be able to get whichever WR fell to the 2nd if we have the 3rd overall pick that round.
That's #26, right? If they were to do that for Fuller they better hope he is still there at 26. That's the point in the 1st round where people are leapfrogging everybody to get who they want as it isn't very expensive to do so.
If it's with the intention of moving him to TE, I will probably be less pissed, but it will depend upon how high they take him. As a TE, he's going to be a project. Even though he has the size, he may not have the hands or the mindset to block and make tough catches over the middle where he knows he's going to get hit. Depending upon what round prospects like Crockett Gillmore, Marcel Jensen and Arthur Lynch go, I certainly wouldn't touch Thomas before them, and probably not until at least round after them. Also, I don't think it's a matter of moving Thomas "back" to TE. AFAIK, he's never played the position and has always been a QB.
Why wouldn't you want the best QB prospect you can get since it's the most important position on the team, and the jury is still out on Geno? Why settle for a mid-round or lower round prospect who may not have a third of the talent Geno has and have just as many, if not more, issues to straighten out?
Certainly not knowledgeable enough about him to disagree with you. It's for sure a gamble, with tons of upside potential, and the scouts are all over the map with his ceiling, considering him a high risk high reward project going anywhere from the second round to the 6-7 round. I have paraphrased the consensus inputs as follows:“His potential is outstanding, but it will be interesting to see where a team is willing to gamble, if you will, on that potential. You don’t find many guys with that blend of height, weight, speed, athleticism and competitiveness. He has great intangibles, and the ability to make every throw on the field” Given the premise that the Jets will not go after a QB early to compete with Geno this year, a year where many would argue is not very talent heavy for QB anyhow, then the question to me is will the Jets be willing to bet and potentially waste one pick for such a tremendous upside, or select someone else. Damned I can't wait for the commissioner to welcome everyone to the 2014 NFL draft. I might not even booed him this year.
Hello, I am a long-longtime Jets fan. Just been lazy to register on Ganggreen. ( really enjoy this site ). I seem to remember last year fans willing to tank the season... JUST for the chance to get teddy bridgewater. He has been talked about as a top 2 pick ....for a long time. And now in the final moments before the draft.... there is a possibility that he might drop to 18.. !!! If he does ... I have to think Very long and hard before passing on him. The Jets never seem to be in position to get The next great quarterback. It still pains me that the year the Jets had the #1 pick...and peyton manning decides to stay in school...ugh. With Rex as coach, we are never going to have a top 3 pick. I think the fact that so many good qbs are avail this year...is contributing to teddy's possibility of falling. This creates a GREAT opportunity for the Jets to get their QB..... finally. The only reason the Jets had a chance at Mo Wilk is because that year had sooo many great lineman. The two things that have eluded the Jets forever... Elite pass rusher / quarterback. I would rather take teddy at 18 and miss... then pass and regret it. The Jets have picked lots of 1st round busts in its history... we'll live......IF teddy becomes a wasted pick. I can't even say "BUST" .... He looks really solid. BUT if we pass and he becomes a franchise qb for someone else.... for me would be savage pain. Windows of opportunity don't come often.. LET's take a chance.....
Geezuz, really? There are IMHO about 7 QBs in the draft who could become really really good starting QBs in the NFL but 3 of them who could beome GREAT. I want a GREAT QB. Finally. Just once. Sure we could grab Mettenberger in the 4th or Garopolo in the 3rd or Boyd in the 6th or Fales in the 5th. But if we pass on Teddy or Carr or Manziel in the first (and he's the one I'm hedging on because he could become either great or a bust), then we're going to regret it. I'll tell you one thing, if Carr slips past us and heads down to the bottom of round 1, the Pats are going to take him and we're going to see another decade and a half of dominance out of New England. But lets put weapons around Geno and hope he becomes competent. If he stinks it up we can always grab a QB next year. Solid plan. This is a QB driven league. Let's not let thr franchise slip through our fingers--there are at least a dozen WRs and 3-4 TEs who we could take in rounds 2 and later (multiple times) with the rest of our 11 picks. _
Better yet, lets take a developmental guy in the 7th in the HOPES that we can find a diamond in the rough. In other words, just throw that pick away. _
Thanks for that info. The footage I watched and reports I read were all early and they were all bad. If he truly has that much potential, then I could see taking a gamble on him somewhere in the 4th round or below, perhaps with one of the comp picks, but the thing is if they miss then they've wasted the pick when the position player they take could become a quality starter, or if they take another QB with perhaps a lower ceiling but higher floor, that QB could develop into a quality backup. I think Thomas may be a boom or bust pick. Based on these latest reports, he certainly seems to have all the physical tools, but I think it's the mental ones that are the big question mark. My memory is a little foggy on him, but I think his real weaknesses were decision making, reading defenses, accuracy, and an inability to maximize and utilize his physical talents on a consistent basis.
Wow. Very well said. If Carr or Teddy go to the Pats, we're going to be looking up at them until 2025. _
Well, welcome to TGG. You make a very good point, but if I recall, last year many of the members also said that by the time the 2014 draft rolls around a lot will change regarding QB talent and the top ten list. As we approach this draft Teddy seems to have dropped from the favorite to be drafted number one to not even being the top 1 or 2 QB in the draft. As I see it, much depends as to how the Jets rated Teddy in their proprietary list for BPA. That will be the draft bible used by Idzik to make his selections. if they see the value, they might pull the trigger, if they choose a different avenue, they might even trade the pick and get a second or third. After all, as another member said, expect the unexpected. What Jet fans think we should do and what the FO does are more often than not, not even close.
Welcome! I'm glad you registered and will look forward to your future posts. I totally agree. I like Geno a lot, but if the Jets get a chance to draft Teddy, they have to do it. They can't worry about what msg that might send to the team or if it creates a circus, or whatever. Teddy's talent and potential are too outstanding, his production has been too great, and with QB being the most important position and Geno far from a certainty, I think that Idzik would be a moron to pass on him.
He sure did. He played tight end in the U.S. Army All-American Bowl (longest running high school all star game). My point is that I wouldn't mind spending one of the 6th round picks on him as a TE prospect - same thing with Colt 'Coke' Lyerla. CBS Sports Bio: Player Overview Thomas didn't start playing football until the eighth grade and lined up at both receiver and quarterback in high school. He was ranked as the No. 1 prep tight end recruit and was recruited as a receiver, tight end and H-Back by college programs (only Duke wanted him to play quarterback). He somewhat reluctantly moved to quarterback shortly after arriving at Virginia Tech and redshirted in 2009 before serving as a back-up in 2010.
Thanks for the info. I evidently missed that or had forgotten it. Still, if he hasn't played TE since high school, that would be somewhat of a concern for me unless he was taken in the 5th-6th round area. If the draft still had 11 rounds, I would use an 11th round pick on Lyerla. I don't want any distractions or druggies around the team. Period.
