What if these four are gone by 18?

He's kind of slim to be an inside backer to me, see him as an outside backer in a 4-3.

 

You are probably right. He also has been slowed down by some injuries as weak side LB. I'm sure that will factor in to.

 

Maybe Giacomini would be able to play G for a couple years if a top rated T slides and doesn't project as well inside. I'm pretty sure that either Barr or a top 10 OL is going to slide along with Lee, or Ebron. Think it'll be far more likely to be a tough choice picking between two great options that slid rather than having to reach for Cooks or OBJ. One of the CBs or Dix could present an outlet too if the FO really believes in one of them. Lots of possibilities.

 

To answer the OP's question:

First, let's also take Ebron, Lewan and Z Martin off the board.

Anthony Barr or Kyle Fuller would be my choices.

(Dark Horse surprise pick, rising up the board: Xavier Sua-Filo)

Anthony Barr is getting a bad rap because he has just played the position 2 years. Barr has over 20 sacks in 2 years and is an explosive player. A lot of people were sour on Mingo last year, including myself, and he has played very well.

Kyle Fuller is my #2 CB. Kyle Fuller does everything well, taclkes, coverage, run support, just needs to stay healthy. If we draft Fuller, it will be the second CB back to back to have injuries their last year in College. Another interesting fact, VT CBs have done fairly well in the NFL, plus good bloodlines.

 

I agree with the first 3 on your list but want no parts of Ha-Ha. I think with MM offense we need more weapons to run it better. With a pass catching TE, CJ, Decker, another WR and Kerley in the slot could potentially be lethal.

 

There's a part of me that would prefer ASJ over even Ebron. Who in the AFC East will be able to cover him?He's actually more athletic down the seam than Gronk was in his prime.I don't think he has quite the power after the catch or catching radius but he's still a match-up nightmare from day 1. He's also an efficient blocker including in pass pro(which is something MM did alot of in Philly).We address the speed WR pick at #49 or a less pricey move up sometime around pick 40.

As for Clinton Dix...He's basically my fallback "all the offensive players worth taking are gone" pick.He'd likely fall within that given scenario.It took me a long while to warm up to him as a prospect. He's not this converted corner w/ elite covering ability like he's been labled. He's more of a deep patrolman. Sideline to sideline size/speed combo w/ decent movement & a nice physical dimension as a tackler.He also matches up very well w/ that TE caca New England likes to run

 

IfAnthony Barr is on the board at 18 and the Jets dont take him, I will lose my mind

 

LOL get ready to lose it then because this guy might drop out of the first round. He's only played the position for 2 years and we have Pace, Barnes and Coples already ahead of him on the depth chart. We need some talent on offense to properly run MM offense. This guy was slated to go top ten and now he is dropping that is an omen.

 

Coples is a 4-3 DT playing OLB and Pace is 400 years old, we definitely need an OLB at some point in this draft.

 

I think Barr is falling b/c he lacks that aggressive "Killer instinct" that defensive coaches like Rex desire.He's very mild mannered & even keeled. He's not a thug or anything like that but it's kind of the same deal as Vernon Gholston was personality-wise. To play in a Rex scheme you have to want to hurt opposing Qbs. That's not Barr.

Now falling to #18 would certainly light a fire & you cannot deny the physical talent.Additionally he'd be eased into his role here playing behind Calvin Pace.He'd likely start off as a sub package pass rusher in specific looks. I could see him replacing Pace at strong side DE in 4 down man looks OR moving Wilk inside on those sets like he belongs.Then a year from now he hopefully becomes your full time strong sider

 

I think the most likely scenario is he's falling because be relies on athleticism more then technique, very undisciplined in the run game and doesn't take on blockers well at all. Not to mention he really only has 1 pass rush move. College players that come into the NFL relying solely off athleticism don't tend to make it too often unless they get coached up real well. Dee Ford is another guy with very few moves in the pass rush and likes non contact pass rushes but he is very disciplined in the run game. He keeps containment very well and doesn't bite on the play fakes too often, not as athletic as Barr though but stronger at the point of attack.

 

I think jets are going CB with 18 th pick, there are 4 of them that have the potential to come in and play. The jets brought in 5 to visit. JMO

 

They also brought in the top tight ends, safeties, and receivers. I'll be pretty shocked if the 1st round pick isn't from one of those four position groups, even if someone like a Lewan or Barr falls. For what it's worth, my preference order would be Evans, Clinton-Dix, Pryor, Ebron, Dennard, Beckham, Amaro, Cooks.

 

I don't mean to be a dick, but it's "moot" not "mute"

 

Well Rex has been here 5 years and hasn't targeted that position at all. Even with Gholston being a Bust. I don't think he cares that much about having a rookie playing OLB in his system. But I feel if he had a shot at Mack he would take it. But Barr is a softy saw him get pushed around in the PAC-12.

 

I wouldn't call Barr soft but his tape is pretty bad honestly, unreal athleticism though, probably why he was projected so high.

 

He's not a point of attack kind of player.And if you're taking him for that role, you will be very disappointed. This is a classic weak side/backside pursuit finisher. He's the guy you want matched up w/ the inferior blocker or left free in blocking schemes. He's gonna get a quick release off the ball, get pretty good bend,change direction & explode to the QB. Why is this intriguing for the Jets? That's exactly the finishing touch the Jets pass rush needs.They have plenty of match-up guys who can occupy double teams & get penetration now they add the glossy finish.

Will he need to become more physical to become a 3 down player? Absolutely but He has length/speed/hips & a pretty good frame.Those are all the physical traits you look for in a long term OLB.Let him learn proper leverage & all that stuff.But in the meantime even in a part time role..he would really help the Jets.

My questions with him are about football character. I don't doubt his physical skills or what role he can play..I think both make sense for the Jets at #18. I just don't know if he's mean enough.

 

I definitely agree that he's not a 3 down player yet, I actually stated a few times on here that if we take Barr do not expect a high impact player his first year or two, really what I want him to work on is discipline in the run game, stop over pursuing and giving up the cutback, contain his gap better, when he sees a RB leave the backfield on a flare while he's pass rushing he very rarely gets hands up, is that a football IQ issue or is he just too aggressive? I'm sure teams are asking him all of this in his interviews.

 

So the more I hear about him the more it sounds to me like he could turn out to be a more athletic version of Aaron Maybin . Am I misinterpreting the feedback I read about him?