I disagree. The difference in the talent level at CB is not going to have that big of an impact on the play of the defense, but the difference in the play between a good WR and potential star WR can have a HUGE impact on the offense, and that in turn will have a bigger impact on the overall play and record of the team than a CB.
I think the opposite is true. The difference in talent from the top 5 CBs and the next 5 is a fair sized drop off. This WR class has like 10 WR's who are all very close in talent level. If you take a WR in the 2nd round you are getting almost the same as you'd get if you drafted a 1st round WR. If you take a CB in the second, you are getting a significant difference than what you'd get if you drafted a round 1 CB.
How does geno reach his max potential faster,throwing to an ok wr that knows how to block or a game breaker who is backing up safeties and drawing and beating double coverage?
I skimmed through it. Bizarre. I hardly recognized any of the posters names. What happened to all of them? Did they get banned? Quit? Changed their names?
As long as he has legitimate WR's with consistent routes and good hands, a decent o-line, and a good running game to take pressure off him, Geno will develop at his own rate. Just throwing a ball up to a dominant WR does not aid development, just look at Andy Dalton. Dalton had an ok rookie year because of AJ Green. Dalton has even more quality receivers around him now, and has he developed? No, he still just lobs the ball to AJ Green. The key to developing a QB is to help him avoid costly mistakes while getting in-game experience. Maximizing the ground game with a good blocking receiver who is also reliable and versatile like Eric Decker is very helpful to Geno, as is having a good receiving TE and reliable slot receiver. I think a second round receiver like Jordan Matthews who is talented but can block well combined with a 1st round corner like Dennard who would help create a shutdown defense is adding more overall value to the team.
Would anyone be upset if we went: 1. Darqueze Dennard CB (Michigan State) 2. Trent Murphy OLB (Stanford) 3. Donte Moncrief WR (Ole Miss) 4. Jimmy Ward S (Northern Illinois) 4. CJ Fiedorowicz TE (Iowa) 4. Yawin Smallwood ILB (Connecticut) 5. Bruce Ellington WR (South Carolina) 6. Traded to get Moncrief-- 6. Justin Britt OT (Missouri) 6. Kirby Van Der Kamp P (Iowa State) 6. Colt Lyerla TE (Oregon) 7. Traded to get Moncrief--
No, we just traded a 6th and a 7th from 2014 to move up a few spots in the 3rd to get him. EDIT: I guess technically we traded away our 3rd rounder too, but I'm sure you know what I meant.
I doubt either one of us is going to say anything to change the others mind, but imagine what rex would do with an offense that could get good leads on teams. a better offense will make the defense better too
There is one main problem with this; If you want a top unit you have to invest in that unit more than the other. If you split your top picks, you end up with mediocre talent on both units. A good man CB makes the defense shutdown quality. A good WR is wasted unless we get him the ball a lot, so we start to transition away from a ball control offense. More pressure is put on Geno to get the ball to the WR who is often double covered, thus resulting in more 3 and outs. The defense is then forced onto the field more, and is less likely to be a shutdown defense, again putting more pressure on Geno to put up points. There is a reason most good defensive teams run a ball control offense. Seattle, San Fran, they both prefer to run the ball. Who was Russell Wilson's star WR last year?
or, teams stop stacking the box which opens up the running game which makes p.a. work which leaves receivers single and sometimes uncovered which makes for easy throws for geno. we had the good defense with a stagnant offense, it only works if everything is going perfect. you can have a star wr and still control the ball. like i said we won't change each others mind, i am convinced that drafting a player that might bring the o from 29th to around 16th would be more beneficial than adding a cb that might bring the d up from 11th. the disparity between the o and d is just too much for me to ignore right now
Moncrief wan't make it past the middle of the 2nd round at the latest, good chance he's gone by the end of the first or start of the 2nd.
I really don't think he's going in the first. He may go in the second, but if he slips to the top of the 3rd we could trade up and grab him. There are so many WR's in this draft that it is possible he slips to the 3rd or at least very late second.
Two TE 's ..good for you. Lots of talent here. Especially with CJ Fedor and Jimmie Ward. Sorry, not that knowledgeable about Moncrief/Ellington. Thought you would go for WR Matthews. Nice slant on things.
The Jets are actually in a position to ground and pound, pick up first downs , but also use Decker, Ford, Hill, new TE new WR (if things pan out). Like you said, it's safer to run and I agree. Once there is a bit of a lead Geno should try to throw a few. If he is off, go back to the run. Geno is no Tom Brady, but it would be nice to see him get big completions.
Geno has a great arm and can put the ball just about anywhere. The real key is get him some time, and get him some open throws. You want to establish the run and give him some straightforward passes, and as he develops a rhythm in-game you start to open up some of the play calls for him. A great way to for Geno to show off his arm is to get the defense on their heels with a play action fake and get the ball to a deep Decker or Hill. Some nice deep seam passes to Cumberland will be good too.
Barring an interception, this sounds doable. Hmmmm..are we actually going to have a good offense in 2014?? (Touchdown sounds are going off like alarm bells lol).
Exactly! Give the Jets a good lead, and it takes away the opponents rushing attack. They have to throw, and the Jets' D can key on it, allowing the pass rushers to tee off on opposing QBs. It gives the Jets a distinct advantage. The other thing is that with a WR who can score from anywhere on the field, even if the Jets are behind, unless they are being blown out, one score can put them right back in the lead or get them right back in the game, so they're never totally out of it.
