BPA Doesn't make sense!

Dims, can I ask a favor? Could you please change your avatar? That one's really annoying.

Thanks. Please ….

 

With Jones everything is possible, he's shown to be a terrible evaluating talent.

 

Hey man, some of us have good dreams during a seizure.

 

I am just surprised 3 different posters responded to Champ as if he is really going to read what they had to say.

 

Every time I come across one of Dims posts I wonder how many people have looked at his avatar and had a seizure

 

It will be another 10 years before champ figures out what ZOMG means.

 

Champ is the acronym king, of course they are all just his own made up acronyms

 

You are now officially designated as a SGB, under the column of JTLs. I hope you know the damage that you have just done to your own reputation.

 

I thought it was BigBlocker who decided posters reputation around here?

 

Oh, you must be talking about CRED. That's an entirely different points system.

Edit: here's how the CRED system works.

15pts - Do you agree with me?
12pts - Do you like my posts?
1.0059pts - Do you understand the game of football?
7000pts - Do you masturbate to deceased actresses?

 

BPA isn't foolproof. In '95 the Jets thought Kyle Brady was the BPA over Sapp.

 

You make an excellent point, however if you look at when Idzik came in, it's obvious he did not have his complete input on the final board last year.

So now that he has had time to bring in some of his own scouts and help to prepare the draft board from day one, I believe you will see a better draft.

Who is to say that if he gets hired earlierlast he may have not put milliner at the top? We don't know, but we do know that some of the jets scouting personnel were let go in the off season.

Which tells me that Idzik was not satisfied with the board that he saw last year.

 

I understand how you feel, and don't totally disagree with you.

First of all, I don't believe in blindly or slavishly adhering to any guideline or principle. As the old saying goes, rules are meant to be broken. That said, I believe that BPA is the smartest and best guiding principle for approaching the draft.

I do agree that there comes a point, or at least can be a point, where BPA has to meet need. For instance the example you quoted, or the DT position. Only so many players can play, and you can't draft a 1st round pick or even a 2nd round pick to just be depth. That where I think the importance of the position has to be taken into consideration, the greatness of the need, and other factors. In most drafts, the are a handful of elite players, and then there are a group of players who are graded roughly equally, with maybe only fractions of points separating them. That's where the need or positional strength comes in. QB, LT, OLB, & NT are the 4 most important positions on a team that plays a 3-4 alignment. With a 4-3 alignment DE becomes more important than OLB, and the NT position is less important, and perhaps the MLB is more important. WRs, RBs, TEs, OGs, Cs, ILBs, CBs, and Safeties follow along in some order. Thus, if the Jets had two players with roughly the same grade, and one plays OLB and the other plays RB, the Jets should take the OLB since it's a need and RB isn't.

I don't believe in just taking a player to keep a rival from taking him. It has happened, but I think usually has wound up biting the team in the butt that did that, especially when that player may not fit their scheme, and then the pick was just wasted. It's another thing if both teams play the same scheme, and you like the player too and it's not JUST a matter of taking him to keep the other team from getting him. You can't worry about the other team. You can only focus on things that you can control and the needs that your team has. Focus on other teams in the draft and try to spite them, and you're already a loser.

I don't think the FO owes us anything. I don't want them being "open" and/or "honest" with us or the media. That would be stupid. Other teams would then know what the Jets were gonna do and could alter their draft strategy so that it would hurt us. It's their job to "blow smoke up everyone's asses" and they'd better do it and do it well.

 

The approach you state is the best way to wind up with the worst talent in the league and be a perennial loser. The guiding principle has to be BPA overall, NOT the BPA at your positions of need.

 

Unless they view Clowney as an OLB prospect rather than a DE, I disagree. You can't play Clowney, Richardson and Mo all at the same time, and you couldn't afford to sit one of them and have your #1 pick be a part-time player. If Clowney falls to #18 by some miracle and the Jets covet him, the Jets either have to trade Richardson or Mo, or trade the pick to someone who covets Clowney. There's no way they could keep and pay all three.

I also disagree that if Cooks and Lewan are there and graded the same, that Cooks will be the pick. LT is a much more important position than WR. Prime LTs usually go in the first 10 picks if not the first 5. As much as I like Cooks and would love to see the Jets draft him, if Lewan is there, they have to take him unless they don't like him for some reason. IMO importance of position and likelihood of being able to be in position to draft that position in future drafts has to trump immediate need. Besides, Brick is on a slippery slope. LT could become a HUGE need in short order.

 

No it doesn't. You reasoning sucks. It means that they both had the same grade or roughly the same grade, but they gave a greater value to the CB position than they did the DT/DE position, and that's why Milliner was chosen first. Another possibility could be that they had Richardson graded higher but were pretty confident that the team(s) drafting in between the Jets picks wouldn't take Richardson, but believed that there was a good chance that Milliner would have been picked.

 

I don't think that's true. I think they bumped Sapp down, or maybe even removed him from their board due to character/drug concerns.