Im kind of sick of hearing Teams FO speak of taking BPA as a draft philosophy. Yes, I understand it, I don't agree with it, and FO need to be honest to the media when questioned about it. Let's say for instance the BPA on your board for 3 consecutive rounds is a QB, you ARE NOT going to take 3 QBs when your team has other areas of need. We as fans, especially those of us who follow the draft as a ritual every year, are not dunce enough to accept that. FO need to be realistic, state they will deviate from the draft board when considering BPA vs. current roster vs. team need. You all know the draft process involves many factors, jockeying also being one of them. Another hypothetical scenario would be ( and dont tell me it hasnt happened before) considering drafting a player like ASJ when you know our rival N.E. is most likely infatuated with him and pairing him with a healthy Gronk poses nightmares in coverage for any team and greatly reduces our chances of dethroning them in Division. In summary, tons of factors, scenarios, matchups, blocking, leapfrogging, we all know these are considerations drafting players, and BPA to me is a smokescreen and gives FO a free pass to blow smoke up our asses. A little venting, but its how I feel atm.
I think pretty much everything that comes out of the mouth of the team officials is a smokescreen or a fancy way of using words to tell you nothing, but it's all part of the game, really. I very rarely watch a press conference or interview with coaches or management because you know they're not going to give you much more then "it's a process".
I agree with OP and evojoe. I don't think you do go BPA regardless of circumstance. If for some reason DT is the BPA it would be stupid of us to take them because they are probably not going to play much and have an opportunity to impact the team. If a WR, TE or CB is slightly behind him as far as BPA is concerned but will have a tremendous impact on the team why wouldn't you go with that? Generally I don't believe a word out of the mouth of any coach or GM at any time of year as it's always spin but a draft time and camp that goes double or triple. Just don't even consider what they say to have an element of truth.
1) do you really think teams dont deviate from their player prospect / value list? 2) the draft is for the future. What may not be a need now may be a need when the player really develops in a season or two, so it's best to add talent instead of reaching to plug holes giving you a roster of mediocre players....... especially on a roster like the JETS. This isnt the Broncos filling gaps while Manning is still on two feet.
The BPA philosophy is also tempered by a tiering system. Its not a strict ordered list that must be followed at all costs. If there are a couple who really set themselves apart you try to trade up. If you have several lumped together equally you try to trade down. Straight from Idzik's mouth: “If there are a group of players that you really like and you equate them, then you could trade down and you feel like you still could get a player in that group,” said Idzik on the possibility of moving back. ... “If you have one or two that you really covet and that player might not be there by the time you pick, then what’s it going to cost you to move up?” Idzik said.
The way I look at BPA, is that it is the best player available of the positions that you dont have set. The 2 big needs for the Jets are WR and CB. But going by my BPA, the pick could be WR/TE/CB/OLB/MLB/S/OT/OG/QB/HB Basically, every position besides DL. And to be honest if Jadaveon Clowney were available, I'd hope the Jets would pick him lol
"With the first selection in the 1987 draft, the New York Jets select.......Roger Vick, Full Back". We really needed a FB so this was a GREAT pick.
Again, BPA is only a concept used by teams basically blowing up the team and starting over. For everybody else BPA is used within the positions you NEED to fill.
As previously stated BPA is not strictly that, the team will have the players rated while also knowing team needs and when it is time to pick the balance the BPA with the team need. Meaning if FS is the biggest need, CB is 2nd biggest need and OL is 3rd, when the team comes to the podium and the BPA is an OL but there is a FS who is just below him on their board they may go with the FS. So not the actual BPA but BPA based on need. This certainly beats just going out with the mindset that a FS, CB and OL is needed and picking a 3rd round FS in the 1st round because it is a need.
Not to digress from the OP's point here, but I do watch the post game pressers most of the time. I do so despite agreeing that you rarely get straight talk from them. But you get alot more from the body language, and how poorly or convincingly lies are told. Like in 11 and 12, Sanchez would say the same upbeat kinds of things after all the losses. but you could see he was somewhere in the middle of dispirited, clueless and even unfocused. No wonder his troubles continued. Plus it's not all lies. So there's that, too.
I agree with BPA but within reason. But I do also feel that if you have a need it's okay to slightly reach to get your guy.
The Richardson pick was not pure BPA. Rex had been planning on moving Coples to play more OLB when they played 3-4 sets, and had even done so some at the end of 12. I agree with those who say BPA is used only by teams in pure rebuilding mode as the sole standard guiding the approach to the draft. For most teams need is factored in. On the other hand most teams do not enter the draft having only one or two positions in need of upgrading, obviously. The Jets right now are certainly not in that position. I don't know what they will do for a couple of reasons, one of them being unknowable as of today, that being who will and will not be taken by the 17 teams before the Jets. I tend to think from what I have read that if Dennard falls to them, he would be their likely first pick, but others have said it is likely he will not fall to 18. Beyond that I rank Cb as the top need, followed closely by WR. Then it's a drop to safety in third. Fourth? Could be either OL or TE. I honestly don't know where to put TE, since to some extent there's where you get into a more BPA mix. If the Jets have failed to fill a need at wideout, are picking when a quality TE is available, and they don't like the options at Wr at that spot, they could well go TE to upgrade overall receivers. But as it stands now and despite my thinking Cumberland is pretty average as a starter, I don't see TE being a high priority, IF they can use a top pick on a quality wideout. (Part of my thinking is I think Sudfield has promise, and the CS might share that pov.) So I tend to think OL is closer, and perhaps right up there with safety. Finally I would not be the least bit surprised if a top Qb prospect falls to the Jets to see them take one. This is less likely after the Vick signing, but it is still possible.
Best player available is a flawed way of thinking.Let's say for argumemts sake that the BPÀ at the number 18 pick is a D line men does that mean we take him?Obviously not.I honestly hate drafting this way ,is it more effective then drafting by need?im not sure,The BPA way of drafting is also flawed in the fact that none of these "Best Players Available" have ever stepped on a NFL field and are unproven.The draft makes me so nervous every year I hope we don't mess this up
Idzik said they had Richardson at the top of the draft board, so I fail to see what you are saying here.
It doesn't make sense if you think about it as purely BPA but I highly doubt that's how GM's actually view it.
BPA is the best way to build a team, obviously if a QB is BPA each rd you aren't taking them. There has to be some common sense applied.
On a somewhat related note, Chad is going to announce our 2nd rd pick at the podium. http://nflcommunications.com/2014/0...o-help-announce-pick-of-hisher-favorite-team/
People need to take a step back and apply a bit of common sense to the BPA strategy. Obviously if Teddy Bridgewater is available at 18 and Manziel is available at 49 we aren't taking both. The way I look at BPA (Since no GM has come out and gone into details about it, which they shouldn't) is that it basically expands a teams needs to fit whose remaining on the board. In my view, the Jets are looking at QB/HB/WR/TE/OLB/MLB/CB/S. All of those positions can be upgraded, and it wouldn't seem like a redundant pick. But there is also some wiggle room in there. If Clowney is available at 18, the Jets shouldn't pass on him because he's a DL. So I think position and how a player is rated goes hand in hand. If the Jets have Cooks and Lewan graded the same, they'll go with WR because he is the bigger need, but if they have Lewan graded way higher than everyone else, he'll be the pick.
