Geno or Vick? Who do you think becomes starter week 1?

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Geno or Vick? Who starts week 1 of 2014 season

  1. Geno

    88 vote(s)
    56.1%
  2. Vick

    59 vote(s)
    37.6%
  3. Matt Simms?!?

    10 vote(s)
    6.4%
  1. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    No. I don't consider that trying hard. I thought that was part of playing the position.
     
  2. dgiven91

    dgiven91 Active Member

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    West Virginia fan here. Started following the Jets as soon as they drafted Geno.
    All I have to say is, you guys are going to be pleasantly surprised at how much better Geno is this coming season. We saw it last year. His first year in Holgorsen's offense, he was pretty average (with some good moments) until the Orange Bowl. Then he came in as a senior and lit it up. The guy is a film rat and one of the hardest workers we've seen in Morgantown. I can only imagine how much he'll improve in MM's system with a full year under his belt and no classes to worry about that will interrupt his film study. I'll be shocked if he doesn't look like a completely different player this season.
     
  3. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    I hope you are right my man.
     
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  4. MoWilkNYJ

    MoWilkNYJ Well-Known Member

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    Given in the past he was praised for his work ethic at the very least it's a good sign.

    I remember Idzik made a comparison to Russell Wilson in respect to film watching.

    Plus here's the WVU fan mentioning that too.
     
  5. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Ftr I like what he said about the other players, but again what else was he going to say? That they sucked?

    People make too much over things players say in general.

    For myself I think Smith's defenders here overstated the lack of talent on O as the reason for his problems. He had the sixth best running game in the league, and imo that number would have been better if D's were facing a more dynamic passer. And while talent was not anywhere near above average, and was in fact below average, that was not the reason for all his turnovers. He was throwing the ball right to defenders.
     
  6. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    I have not forgotten that, either. I never thought the criticisms of Sanchez for supposedly being lazy were fair. All I ever heard was how he put in long hours and worked hard.

    Didn't do him much good, though.
     
  7. Big Blocker

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    To be clear i am not saying he's got anything like a bad work ethic.

    Smith's problems seem more to be about his pocket presence, awareness of defenders, his fundamentals. Not sure how he fixes those just by watching film.
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I would say that is his number one problem. He would drive me crazy last year..it was like he had absolutely no idea how much time had run off since the play started or that defenders were coming up from behind and about to kill him.
     
  9. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    He didn't have to answer the question at all or implied that the receivers weren't good without actually saying verbatim that the receivers sucked. But I get it in your eyes Geno can never say or do anything right.
     
  10. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.
    His comfort level has got to improve in those critical seconds after the ball is snapped..Hopefully Vick will help him with that.
     
  11. Big Blocker

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    I just said I liked that he said it, but you and too many people here overrate statements from players. You don't get much right around here as far as I can tell.
     
  12. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    All of these were problems with Geno in 2013. The thing is that his fundamentals are not historically an issue with him, and that is where you saw him deteriorate without weapons. His pocket presence was an issue even from the beginning of the season, and his awareness of defenders as well, although personally I would characterize it more as a need to adjust to the speed of the game. I saw all three of these things improve immensely at the end of the season. I never said a lack of weapons was the only issue, no doubt he was raw coming in. I just think a lot of those rookie growing pains are improving.
     
  13. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    You then gave an essay on his negatives as usual.
     
  14. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Oh boy, you gonna git the essay from hell because of that, you FO Homer.
     
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  15. MexicanJet

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    not a high pick, but def in the 3rd or 4th or even 5th round.
     
  16. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    If you disagree with what I said and feel you can articulate a countering argument, go right ahead. But all you are doing here is weeping over my being critical of Smith. Grow up.
     
  17. Big Blocker

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    Why would the Jets do that? They already have a sort of project Qb on the roster in Simms. If they've already decided to move on from Simms, which would be news to me, then doing what you say makes sense. But they haven't. Should they carry four Qb's?
     
  18. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 1h
    Jets doing some work on QBs, bringing in Virginia Tech's Logan Thomas today.

    And if he is still there in the 6th(where he is supposed to go) I bet they take him.
     
  19. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    Don't like the scouting report on him saying he's "very inaccurate".
    Also big issues with ball security/interceptions.
     
  20. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    Bet you we move him to TE or WR... Dude is 6'6 260.
     
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