You're doing the exact same thing we're doing here. Such compliments have never been paid to Greene when he was a Jet. He's a good backup, gets banged up, kind of a plodder. Not for nothing, but there's no way Greene is a better football player (maybe in your small sample size he was, but don't expect anything long term). You can devalue the position all you want and I'd wholly agree with you, but I think you're over here trying to make yourself feel better by tearing Johnson's career down.
You just don't get it, do you? Use PFO as a tool, but not the end-all, be-all. You're patting your team on the back for getting rid of the player with the 3rd most rushing yards in the AFC last year. A 3.9 YPC. Spectacular? Of course not, but serviceable. We paid for a serviceable player with considerably more upside than that since he's been on a team with a bad offense and a bad offensive line for some time now (whether you care to admit that). I'm not saying the Jets are an improvement on offense, as they've been abysmal, but I do think the line is better, and I'm hoping that works wonders for CJ. You can take PFO's information and forget it as far as I'm concerned. New team, new surroundings, new motivation. Could fall on his face, or could be a great piece. You say you signed up on this board to let us know how Titans fans felt, yadda yadda yadda. You realize we don't have to travel to Tennessee to find that out, right? Your board is just a click away if we really wanted to get your opinion of him and how much he sucks. So don't give us this courtesy nonsense and just admit you're trying to make yourself feel good about it, and to do so, you have to come over and try to tear down other fans. I'm not saying that everyone's reactions have been completely warranted, but you gotta ask yourself, what did you expect? "HEY, THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING BY AND TELLING US HOW AWFUL OF A PLAYER WE GOT!"
All I've tried to do is have a civil conversation about this with you guys. Really my opinions have been made about Chris Johnson for 3 years in the Titans forum. This is certainly not a new thing with me. I don't need to "make myself feel better." I would have stopped posting on this board if you guys didn't feel the need to constantly insult me for having an opinion.
You just need to come to grips with one simple truth..the Jets are better with Chris Johnson and the Titans are worse without him...
Yes the Titans will be no worse after losing a guy that rushed for 1,000 yards last year. You nailed it. God you're the worst.
Take away Chris Johnson from last year's Titans team and their 4th best receiver would have had 18 receptions as opposed to CJ's 42. Chris Johnson finished with 10 total touchdowns on the year, the next closest was Kendall Wright with 6. Chris Johnson finished with 4 receiving TDs last year as an RB, second on the team behind Kendall Wright. But yea, Titans are fine, they won't be worse...
You need to take a step back and see what you're doing. You came to a Jets message board, albeit in a civil manner as you pointed out and you definitely got your head ripped off. However politely you want to put it, you came over to tell us based on your observations over the last 3 years, Chris Johnson sucks a ton. As politely as you put it, you can't seriously expect a civil conversation with that when there's so much excitement that was generated here. You're just going to have to let us find out for ourselves. But with that said, a Titans fan signing onto a Jets message board to tell them how much their new player sucks is not going to go over well no matter how nicely you put it or how much evidence you think you have to prove your point. Truth be told, we don't care. It's a done deal. So it truly is unnecessary to do so unless you're for some reason trying to curb our enthusiasm or just trying to justify in your own head the move the Titans made (which apparently isn't the case). I, as well as many others, disagree with you. I have seen plenty of Titans games (not nearly as many as you), and as a Chris Johnson fantasy owner, have been plenty frustrated by him. But in the games that I have watched, I still saw a dynamic player (which you do not see). The problem has been his timidity to hit the hole. If he can hit the hole, he's a top flight RB. If he doesn't, he's what you got for the last few years. My opinion was that the Titans offensive line was a joke, and I stand by that. Or maybe I'm just hoping that's the case. Otherwise, we're going to see a lot of CJ dancing in the backfield and losing yardage. And don't take offense to the constant insults. It's a sign of love here.
Oh Johnson is plenty dynamic. I won't take that away from him. That's one of the two strengths that I've seen with him (the 2nd being his durability). I really don't think he lost any speed from 2009. Teams have just figured out better ways to defend him, in turn making Johnson want to go for the home run all the time. And please, please stop sighting the # of catches that he had with TN. You will see what his abilities are as a pass receiver out of the backfield in the fall. Anyone that thinks that rushing for 1,000 is some sort of accomplishment doesn't know the first thing about football in 2014. This is not 1996. If you guys want me to go away fine. But stop responding to me and putting words in my mouth or I'll stick around.
No one is putting words in your mouth. You disagreed with the notion that the Titans will be worse without CJ. It's completely asinine to say that a team losing 1300-1400 yards of total offense and 10 total TDs is going to feel no impact whatsoever. There is absolutely no way you can justify that line of thinking.
If you've watched the Titans the last 3 years you'd understand. I have been saying that he's the biggest problem on the team and we will see how correct (or incorrect) I am.
yes you did. "He is not a good football player, let alone a good running back." you said that. Or are you claiming that 2009 qualification means he only had terrible awareness for the game, poor vision, did not follow his blocks, after 2009? But before 2009 he had good awareness, good vision, and followed his blocks? please. when a good player deteriorates, which happens to every player, they aren't described as not being good players. They are described as being old or losing a step. Walter Payton was never said to not be a good RB simply because he got old. Blair Thomas was not a good RB. Ki Jana Carter was not a good RB. See the difference? Joe Montana got old. Ryan Leaf was not a good QB.
Read what I said in another post. Teams figured out how to defend him and he hasn't been able to adjust. In 2009 he was getting by on pure speed. He does not have the ability like the truly great RB's to do things like break tackles or turn nothing into something. Everything has to be perfect for him to have big games. In 2009 things were perfect. That has since changed.
The team tried to run their offense through Johnson. Do you remember the game against the Titans this year? The one that Locker got hurt after throwing for 3 TD's? Johnson did virtually nothing that game. It's also as good as the Titans offense has looked in a game in years. Go look up the game on September 23, 2012 (against the Lions). The Titans offense was terrific that day, as good or better than in the Jets game. If the Titans didn't put the ball in Locker's hands and instead tried to win with Chris Johnson then I guarantee you that the result would have been different.
Johnson could put up #'s like that this year too if the Jets decide to run their entire offense through him. I highly doubt that'll happen, however.
So you're confident that after just roughly 30 carries, Shonn Greene will be the guy that the Titans CAN put the ball in the hands of? I mean, you're saying the Titans will be no worse and Shonn is gonna be the guy that they give the workload... You're just looking worse and worse every time you post. Your opinions are loony and your justification is weak. If you truly believe in what you're saying then be ready to defend yourself from the shrapnel. You haven't been able to yet.
so his performance, even in good years, was the result of his team opening holes and everything else breaking for him? is that what you are saying? because, again, you are qualifying his accomplishments even prior to 2009 to be attributed to everything but his ability. sure seems like you are claiming he was never a good back, just had good years because of everything else around him.
