Maybe because of previous injury. But if they are both healthy and in their prime, I think I would entertain the idea, and I am a huge MoWilk fan.
Wilk is even more versatile and put up equal production last year. I have nothing bad to say about Watt, but already having Mo and seeing his steady development, I think his type of play will be dominant a lot longer than Watt's. That's why I wouldn't trade straight up.
Mo had the same number of sacks last season and that is where the comparison ends. Watt had more sacks and passes defended in one season than Mo has in his career and the tackle numbers aren't close. Plus, Mo did 10.5 sacks on a defensive line that Watt wishes he could play on. I'm not sure where you get the versatility part, but I would like to see the hurry count between the two to see who comes out on that. Mo is an excellent player, but I wouldn't take him over Watt at this point.
Watt only has 36 more tackles over a 3 year span, I don't think that's all that much. No doubt our defensive line is better than Houston, but Antonio Smith is a quality DE and was opposite Watt until this offseason. Clowney will probably help Watt out a lot, but as far as versatility, pick any technique on the line, and Wilk can do it, 0 technique to 9 technique, left side or right side. That's truly rare.
He has almost double the sacks Mo got and that a lot. You can cut it anyway you want to Watt right now is the better player.
Every one short of the wide 9. It's possible he's lined up in the 9 but I don't specifically recall it.
I agree Watt is a better player. Mo was very good in the run game even as a rookie, and it took him a little more time to develop into a significant pass rush threat. He is quickly closing the gap between he and Watt, and I wouldn't be surprised if he is considered better after 2014. Then again, Clowney may help Watt get some big numbers, either way they are only in their 3rd year and we will see who has the better overall career. Personally I'm a fan of the versatility.
Look man I know you're a good poster, so I will spare you from looking through 16 games with of NFL Game Rewind coverage if you actually subscribe to it, because I have since it's inception. It's not worth it for this argument. I know that Wilk can play numerous gaps, and I know that he can play the DT/NT spot in some sets. He's not suited to play every gap at this level. On the same note, Watt can play multiple gaps, he has the burst and technique to do it even though he was only asked to do certain things in college. Sheldon Richardson can play as a fucking RB when the team decides to use him there. It doesn't mean that he is a RB or even that he is a real crossover player, just that he is a huge body that can hold the ball and hate the guys he is running against. Mo has skills that allow him to play at a high level and those skills could compensate for his inability in a left our middle gap, but that doesn't make him proficient in that gap, that just means he overpowered that gap. But if you really are interested in proving to me that Mo it's an ALL GAP player then have at it.
I agree 100%. But for all we know Mo only put up the numbers because of Richardson. I don't think that the case but we don't know.
So far I've only gotten through 12 snaps because my shite internet is being slow (f***ing roommates) but he has already lined up at 8 different techniques (if you count right and left as separate) and if you don't he's lined up at 6. There are only 11 techniques (on one side of the line) and he's already hit 6 in only 12 snaps of the season so I think you get the point. I'll keep watching if not, because Wilk is definitely able to play every gap at this level. Aslo: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/t...m-muhammad-wilkerson-and-the-new-versatility/ http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ets-absolutely-must-extend-muhammad-wilkerson
Add in 5 more snaps and 2 more techniques. Got this internet is slow. That makes 0, 2i, 3, 3i, 4i, 4, 5, and 6 in less than 1 quarter of play. I'm watching the Saints game if you're curious.
Narrating your efforts isn't going to do it, man, specific plays. And lining up on one side or the other doesn't specify the gap. I tried to give you the easy way out but if you really want to go all the way I want to know shoulder alignment, hand placement and how the rest to the line is positioned.
Mo is my favorite Jet but to try to compare him to JJ Watt is asinine, Watt is a once in a generation type of player with quickness like a DE, strength like a NT and technique with the best of them. Mo excells at holding the point of attack and stuffing the run with the best of them, can rush the passer at the 3 technique and can stunt with some quickness but nowhere near what JJ can do. I've been stressing the need for a pass rushing presence on the outside because I don't expect Mo to get 10 sacks again next year he is a good player but will never be as elite as JJ when it comes to pass rushing.
I'll list side (L/R) Technique, which is shoulder alignment, gap responsibility (the NO game has a ton of passing so just remember that) and hand position (S=standing, ID=1 hand in dirt, 2ID=2 hands) I didn't consider snaps Wilk wasn't in, and omitted redundancies. 2013 Season: Week 9 vs NO. Snap 1: R 3 B ID Snap 2: R 4i A/B ID Snap 3: L 5i C ID Snap 4: L 4 B ID Snap 6: - 0 A/A ID Snap 7: L 5 B ID Snap 9: R 4 C ID Snap 10: L 5 B/C ID Snap 14: R 4 B ID Snap 17: R 1 A ID Snap 18: L 0 moves to 2i A/B S Snap 22: L 6 C 2ID Snap 26: R 7 C/D ID Snap 29: L 6 B/C 2ID There are a lot more redundancies, but here he accounts for A, A/A, B, A/B, C, B/C and D/C gaps working from the 0, 1, 2i, 3, 4, 4i, 5, 5i, 6, and 7 techniques, standing, with a hand in the dirt, and with 2 hands in the dirt in the first 29 snaps of the first game I chose to turn on.
