Are you saying we should give CJ2K the 2 years 10 million he supposedly wants? Idzik hasn't fucked this deal up yet. I doubt any team is going to offer him that and he'll get back to us.
We have no idea what he offered, it may have been the vet minimum. The whole argument on this is ridiculous without knowing the facts. And a "source" from another fansite is not facts.
Lol. No player we could have signed is nearly as good as Mo Wilk is, so why pay them as much? Draft well and pay the guys you developed into superstars. $5 million is too much for what Chris Johnson is going to bring to this team. You really want to pay this guy 160% of the average starting RB salary when he won't even be the lead back?
CJ was at the Knicks nets game last night so he may still be in the area,hopefully Idzik gets this deal done
We don't know that's why I put supposedly. What seems like a very safe assumption is we made an offer that CJ2K felt like wasn't enough for him, and that's why he's gonna look at other teams and weigh his offers. We don't know any facts for sure but it's pretty easy to round out ridiculous notions like we offered vet minimum.
I hate to make a Fantasy Football analogy but if Idzik lets CJ walk over ~ $2-2.5M over 2 years than the JETS are that team at the auction draft that finds itself with $50 of budget left when only $1 and $2 talents are left on the draft board. The inherent point is that NFL budget money has a differnt character to it depending upon the time and the amount of cap room left. For the JETS with ample budget left to spend sitting here in mid-April they should absolutely be willing to overpay for CJ in the context of a 2 year deal. We have plenty of budget left to sign our rookies. It is "bad management" to have unspent money. I just laid out $6K to renew my 4 season tickets. I understand rebuilding but it doesn't mean that the team shouldn't do its best to win and compete along the way.
It is never smart to overpay. You literally just said we have ample money to "overpay" for him. See that's the problem with fans today. They see teams like Miami and Oakland who just spend money like it's going out of style and think that's the proper way of going about free agency. Just because someone is worth a ton of money, doesn't mean they overpay for a house just because they have the money. They buy the house at or below market value. Never over. The same goes for an NFL franchise. You buy players at market value or below. Sometimes you go a tad higher but you never try and overpay. If that said player doesn't sign here, you move on somewhere else. It's a business and the only way a team stays in contention with sufficient cap room is by not overpaying.
Thank god I waited til morning to come check this thread. Same old people with the same old shtick. OMFG IDZICK SUX GREAT JOB IDSIK ANUTHER 1 BYTES TEH DUZT
Don't worry, I have every response in this thread saved since Chris Johnson visited that is claiming he will sign with the Giants or we lost out on him. I will post them all if he signs here haha
Don't make fantasy football analogies about the NFL. The two things are completely different. In the NFL you win based on having a sound roster in which talent and ego and costs all mesh together into a product stronger than the individual pieces. In fantasy football you win based on a small set of numbers that do not represent anything like the totality of a winning effort in the NFL. Who are the biggest names and most valuable picks in fantasy football? Hint: they don't play in the Super Bowl very often if at all and they tend to play for .500 teams.
Unlike fantasy football auctions cap room carries over next year. Imagine the advantage of starting with $30 extra the next year when there are players you really eant
Again, the two things are completely different. You don't get to draft mid-career superstars in the NFL and you certainly don't get to sit them based on who you are playing in a given week. You also don't pay a cap cost for them that is disproportionate to their contribution to wins the way that NFL teams often do.
I'm not arguing that, I'm saying his logic is flawed. He's basing cap spending on one year when we need to look ahead to the future, something that you don't do in fantasy football.
I agree 100% here, but a lot of the best scorers in fantasy football were from winning teams: Peyton Manning Drew Brees Cam Newton Jamal Charles Andrew Luck Andy Dalton Philip Rivers LeSean McCoy Russell Wilson Colin Kaepernick Nick Foles Tom Brady Alex Smith Marshawn Lynch In fact, out of the top 20 scorers, 14 of them were on winning franchises.
why is that obvious? they didn't give him a big money deal. Trust me- they like Powell more than Goodson.
No but they stuck to him even after his weapons and Marijuana arrest. In fact, they even just recently restructured his deal while he is facing prison time possibly. I would say that falls into the category of "really liking" someone. They could have easily just cut his weight.
Something to think about: Segal flew to NY/NJ to be with Chris Johnson at the Knicks vs. Nets game last night. If Johnson was moving on to meet with another team, why would Segal fly here? Why not just fly to wherever the meeting is with the next team? Unless that team is the Giants... but it's been reported he's not meeting there.
Yup. Let him think it over. He has every right in this world to wanna make a thoughtful decision instead of just signing his name immediately. All power to him
