Very interesting to see individuals' projections of Bridgewater. For me, nothing's changed since the last game he played: his game isn't perfect, but he's got the tools, intelligence and moxie to thrive. At this point, one could change the name on this projection and it could easily be Bridgewater. While some may disagree, IMO, he's got the potential to fill a generation-old void in the Jets' roster. If he is there at 18 (or could be had earlier at a reasonable price), I'd get him. That being said, I'd bet on the Jets' FO feeling differently given their investment in Smith.
I think if they are SURE Geno is the guy, they pass on a QB in the first. I really don't think they are that sure of Geno, so it wouldn't surprise me if we take one. That leaves us with I think 5 other picks above the 4th round, and 11 others total, plenty of talent to be found.
I doubt Bridgewater gets to #18, but i think you'd have to bite at that point. personally i don't care where a player was drafted....he has to compete and earn a starting spot. If the Jets happened to have both Smith and Bridgewater, i'd totally be fine with playing the better guy. It's a good problem to have. fwiw, i'd pass on Manziel. it's much more likely that we'd draft a QB in rounds 2-4 though. Mettenberger or Garrapollo could be interesting depth and/or long term insurance should Smith falter.
I'm wasting my time talking with you. You obviously don't understand the concept of karma and how it works.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10782518 More Bridgewater leakage. McShay hits him on arm strength and release and suggests that if he gets by 8 he's going to drop to 20 or below.
That issue revolves around how the Jets feel about Geno more than about how they feel about Bridgewater. I'm not in favor of taking Bridgewater at 18 based on his likely NFL career. However that's also based on the fact that I think the Jets have a guy with similar upside already at QB in Geno. If the Jets don't think Geno is the guy then I'm not going to suggest they should pass on Bridgewater at 18. I think Bridgewater is maybe Geno +5% tops. If he had an arm that was similar to Geno's I'd rank him higher but he doesn't, his arm is nowhere near as good as Geno's.
Ok makes sense. Just gauging your interest in him. I'm pretty confident this team is all in with Geno. I don't think we'll be seeing another quarterback until maybe late in the draft.
This is just monumentally stupid. This is what got Ryan Leaf and Jeff George drafted as high as they were. Big arm. 5 cent head. Teddy's arm is 5 % off Geno's but his release is 20% quicker, his accuracy is 20% better, his anticipation is 20% better and his football IQ is 100% sharper. Not to mention his superior leadership qualities. Teddy is simply a much BETTER player at THE most important position in the sport. If Teddy is there at 18 you sprint to the dais. _
Lol this is one helluva retarded ass post. Teddy runs circles around Geno. you're a smart guy, a lot of very good posts by you on here. just don't understand your reasoning when it comes to qb's so off the mark of reality.
It looks more and more likely that Teddy will be there at 18. Sad thing is we will probably pass on him.
Rightfully so. We just drafted a quarterback in the second round. He started all season and finished on a high note. We also just went out and signed a veteran backup who, if healthy, will start day one while Geno learns on the bench. This organization has said numerous times that they have TONS of faith in Geno and really want him to be the guy. Drafting a first round quarterback would be a waste and a mistake. It would waste our pick and just cause unwanted attention. We will most likely go after one in the late rounds as a third string type guy who can work his way up the ladder. There are far too many holes that need to be filled on this roster. Bpa does not involve QBs in my opinion. We have severe holes at CB, WR, Linebacker, Safety, Offensive Line, etc. Quarterback is not a severe concern right now. In fact, with a healthy Vick, QB is actually a plus as of today.
Unwanted attention? Ooof. Now THAT'S a reason not to take a franchise QB. I am so tired of hearing the high note BS. "Highest QBR the last 4 weeks! Higher than Brady, Brees and Manning!" Throwing for under 199 yards a game and trying to minimize turnovers (albeit successfully). Pretty high standards right there. Serious "high note". _
If any QB gets past 8 he'll drop into the 20's barring a trade up. That goes for Bortles or Manziel as well. I maintain Bridgewater is the most pro-ready QB in the draft. He doesn't have the star power of Manziel or the stature of Bortles, but he has the least downside. He is a better pocket passer than either of them, he has the height Manziel does not, and the experience Bortles does not. The only legitimate knock on this guy is that he didn't throw accurately at his pro-day. Manziel and Bortles are just way more fun for the media to talk about, and honestly I take the fact that no team has leaked that they are high on the guy as an indication that a lot of them are. If the Jags want him, they are hoping desperately that teams don't know that and trade up to 2 and snag him. If the Jags didn't want him, they could leak how they like him convincing someone to go up and get him, leaving either Watkins or Robinson or whichever other QB they want available at 3. If any other team wants him, they don't want other teams to know they might consider trading up for him. That's why little tidbits come out saying how teams aren't that high on him, because everyone wants him to fall to them.
I am not making Geno the answer. I said he "finished on a high note". I never said he's our guy. The organization has made it clear that they want him to be, but it is also obvious that they are not sold on him yet, hence the Vick signing. As many scouts have noted, when you draft a QB in the first round, he must turn into your franchise guy. If not, it was a bust. I don't know if Bridgewater will be that guy, but I just don't think he is worth the risk for us. If we had not taken Geno last year, than obviously you take a shot, but the fact that we have a second round rookie and a veteran starter on the roster makes you think a QB will not be sought after in the first couple rounds. If we pass up on guys like Beckham Jr. and Cooks and Lee and Ebron, etc., and draft Bridgewater and he fails, it will be a disaster. We need playmakers, plain and simple. QB is not something we need to go after in round one or two.
That's why I didn't want a QB last year from a weak class, preferring to wait for a strong class like this year. Taking Geno last year means in all likelihood that we are missing out on a superior player this year. Oh, at the most important position in football. _
This may be true, but none of us know right now. No one can grant Geno the starting job just as no one can label him a bust. His body of work is far too small to label him anything other than a rookie who had his ups and downs. This could also work the opposite way. Bridgewater could turn out to be shit and Geno could be the guy we have been looking for. No one will know right now. One thing is certain though, getting Geno in the second round was a no brainer. The fact that he fell that far and right into our laps was a for sure bet. If he fails, you lost out on a second round pick. If he succeeds, you hit the lotto.
I've never suggested Geno is a bust. He was huge value at 39. Great arm talent and very steely nerves. I just don't think he has the football IQ to ever be elite and for once since Namath I'd love to have an elite guy. I think Teddy could be elite. _
I know you are not labeling him a bust. I'm just saying that in general. From what I've seen, I think Geno does have a high football IQ. That was one of his strong suits coming out of college. He was a student of the game who was always studying. If you are basing his IQ on his play last season, I think that has more to do with nerves and the learning curve involved in switching to a pro offense. Geno ran a spread offense in college primarily out of the shotgun. I think with him, he is going to need some time and practice to mold into a more NFL ready guy, which is why, I believe, they went out and signed Michael Vick. Similar game style and can help teach Geno about the NFL level. I don't think it's his IQ that's low. I think it was more of the game that was too fast for him.
This was released after that article came out shitting on Geno before the draft. This shows how smart this kid is. I think he has a very high football IQ: "Not a student of the game? "I was shocked by that," says Jake Spavital, who was Smith's position coach last year in Morgantown. Now a co--offensive coordinator at Texas A&M, Spavital wondered briefly whether Nawrocki's report might be an April Fools' Day prank. Says Alex Hammond, West Virginia's director of football operations, "I remember leaving the offices at 1 a.m. after the Baylor game"—Smith had completed 45 of 51 passes for 656 yards and eight touchdowns with no interceptions in a 70--63 win—"and Geno was still there, sitting in a dark room, watching video," looking for big plays that he'd left on the table. "Geno will see the safeties spinning down," says Tavon Austin, a slot receiver who played four years with Smith in Morgantown, "and know [that a blitz] is coming from the direction they're rotating away from. He's smart." And while he didn't return SI's call, Mountaineers coach Dana Holgorsen tweeted one day after the report, "Geno's the hardest practicing QB & most gifted student of the game I've coached."
